45/70 or 300 ultra mag

Supergrit · #1 05-24-2015, 08:46 AM

Which is more flatter shooting at 500 yards a 45/70 or 300 ultra mag. I thought I would post this figure there would be less fighting. Kidding I really enjoy 5 pages of the first question not being in any of the Discussions.

J0HN_R1 · #2 05-24-2015, 08:50 AM

IMHO, you're trolling...

But to answer the question, which I'm sure you already know, is .300 RUM...

Bergerboy · #3 05-24-2015, 08:50 AM

In the first 10 inches the trajectories are almost identical. After that, the 300UM is much flatter. I also believe this thread should be moved to the Guns and Ammo section.

Talking moose · #4 05-24-2015, 09:11 AM

I like a .22 short case necked up to .45 cal. It's in its wildcat stages now but should be good to go within the year. Gonna change long range shooting as we know it!

Bergerboy · #5 05-24-2015, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Talking moose

I like a .22 short case necked up to .45 cal. It's in its wildcat stages now but should be good to go within the year. Gonna change long range shooting as we know it!

Ensure you check every wall thickness after forming that brass!

norwestalta · #6 05-24-2015, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Talking moose

I like a .22 short case necked up to .45 cal. It's in its wildcat stages now but should be good to go within the year. Gonna change long range shooting as we know it!

Sounds like one of those super short actions that the masses are raving about. I betcha she's a laser beam as well.

gitrdun · #7 05-24-2015, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Supergrit

Which is more flatter shooting at 500 yards a 45/70 or 300 ultra mag. I thought I would post this figure there would be less fighting. Kidding I really enjoy 5 pages of the first question not being in any of the Discussions.

Really? considering the rucous in the other thread and that a serious contributing member has been suspended, you could leave it alone. This doesn't do much for credibility.

58thecat · #8 05-24-2015, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Talking moose

I like a .22 short case necked up to .45 cal. It's in its wildcat stages now but should be good to go within the year. Gonna change long range shooting as we know it!

I will let you know how things work out as I am in the developement stages right now.

Talking moose · #9 05-24-2015, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 58thecat

I will let you know how things work out as I am in the developement stages right now.

If it's anything like your .500 nitro casing necked down to .17 cal, it will be another success.

tikka300wsm · #10 05-24-2015, 03:15 PM

I would pass on both cartridges and step up to the .300Maknocents, which is just a 300 RUM necked down to the smaller 45 caliber bullet.

gitrdun · #11 05-24-2015, 03:43 PM

This whole thread belongs on Sesame Street.

Lefty-Canuck · #12 05-24-2015, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gitrdun

This whole thread belongs on Sesame Street.

Who gets to be Oscar?

.....snufflupagous has been banned....

I want to be "The Count" because he has a cool hair cut.

LC

gitrdun · #13 05-24-2015, 03:55 PM

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Who gets to be Oscar?

.....snufflupagous has been banned....

I want to be "The Count" because he has a cool hair cut.

LC

How does "chrome dome" get a hair cut? I suppose you could use that spray on stuff and a template.....lol.

I would be cookie monster as there are no garden gnomes on SS.

Lefty-Canuck · #14 05-24-2015, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gitrdun

How does "chrome dome" get a hair cut? I suppose you could use that spray on stuff and a template.....lol.

I would be cookie monster as there are no garden gnomes on SS.

Duh....that's why I want to be the count, he has hair!!....otherwise I may as well pick Kermit

But I will probably end up with the short straw for Gonzo

LC

gitrdun · #15 05-24-2015, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Duh....that's why I want to be the count, he has hair!!....otherwise I may as well pick Kermit

But I will probably end up with the short straw for Gonzo

LC

You seem undecided. I'll give you this one, but only once and you owe me.....you will from now on be known as Miss Piggy.

Lefty-Canuck · #16 05-24-2015, 04:35 PM

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You seem undecided. I'll give you this one, but only once and you owe me.....you will from now on be known as Miss Piggy.

No one will ever mistake you for "big bird" that's for dang sure... More like "Beaker"

LC

gitrdun · #17 05-24-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

No one will ever mistake you for "big bird" that's for dang sure... More like "Beaker"

LC

That is so cool LC, and so close to home. My youngest daughter Monique is known as "beaker" she is now 35 years old and has begged me to not call her "beaker" in public....my grandson Gage calls her aunty Beaker. I love it.

gitrdun · #18 05-24-2015, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by J0HN_R1

IMHO, you're trolling...

But to answer the question, which I'm sure you already know, is .300 RUM...

Yes, after some reviews of his posts....yet another troll.

sns2 · #19 05-24-2015, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gitrdun

Yes, after some reviews of his posts....yet another troll.

Should be banned right away.

gitrdun · #20 05-24-2015, 07:11 PM

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Should be banned right away.

It doesn't always immediately, but over time and given patience, they actually weed themselves out. Case in point is edmhunter. He was headed for destruction from day one. This Supergrit fellow does not appear to have plausible input nor worthwhile discussion material. Seemingly just seems to have nothing but smart arse remarks or stuff to stir the pot with. I figure his outcome will be much as that of edmhunter's.

Venom725 · #21 07-07-2015, 04:18 PM

.45-70 gov't . you will not regret it

gitrdun · #22 07-07-2015, 05:47 PM

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.45-70 gov't . you will not regret it

Well....clearly you haven't read the 1st post or you are entirely clueless.

catnthehat · #23 07-07-2015, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Supergrit

Which is more flatter shooting at 500 yards a 45/70 or 300 ultra mag. I thought I would post this figure there would be less fighting. Kidding I really enjoy 5 pages of the first question not being in any of the Discussions.

Really ??!!

Cat

gitrdun · #24 07-07-2015, 06:33 PM

Dumb Dumb want a Gum Gum ????

colroggal · #25 07-07-2015, 09:35 PM

I'd be cookie monster, but cookies are only a 'some times' snack now

Speaking of new fangled wildcats, how about a .444 necked down to a .222. We could call it a triple-duece-twice

Colin

Hotwheels81 · #26 07-07-2015, 09:50 PM

dewalt18 · #27 07-07-2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Supergrit

Which is more flatter shooting at 500 yards a 45/70 or 300 ultra mag. I thought I would post this figure there would be less fighting. Kidding I really enjoy 5 pages of the first question not being in any of the Discussions.

If you read the ballistics charts you'd know they're both extremely flat out to 500. If you're going any longer though, or considering a potential long range rig, I'd advise something in an 18" improved cylinder smoth bore, with no less than a 1oz slug, otherwise you won't have much energy left

krprice84 · #28 07-23-2015, 01:47 PM

45-70 actually defies gravity to the exact degree that it exhibits zero drop. It will actually fire straight into space, given the curvature of the earth. It's amazing.

now the .450 Marlin, it is effected by gravity JUST enough that it follows the curvature of the earth, hence is defined as a perfectly flat shooting round - it's like a laser beam.

But global warming is affecting the force of gravity now (so many scientist's heads are growing so much bigger, due to their bogus research, that they are now affecting gravity), so it will actually be not long that the .450 Marlin will exhibit some drop and be on par with the .300 RUM, while the 45-70 will be the quintessential "flat shooting" round.

Hope this helps....

wolf308 · #29 07-23-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by krprice84

45-70 actually defies gravity to the exact degree that it exhibits zero drop. It will actually fire straight into space, given the curvature of the earth. It's amazing.

now the .450 Marlin, it is effected by gravity JUST enough that it follows the curvature of the earth, hence is defined as a perfectly flat shooting round - it's like a laser beam.

But global warming is affecting the force of gravity now (so many scientist's heads are growing so much bigger, due to their bogus research, that they are now affecting gravity), so it will actually be not long that the .450 Marlin will exhibit some drop and be on par with the .300 RUM, while the 45-70 will be the quintessential "flat shooting" round.

Hope this helps....

Exactly. What I've found out too while shooting the 45/70 to 2400 yards. We'll said.

krprice84 · #30 07-23-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf308

Exactly. What I've found out too while shooting the 45/70 to 2400 yards. We'll said.

I personally find 2400 yards to be a little, well (no offense), close, for my liking. With the laser like ballistic profile and trajectory, I find it is pretty much a "point and click" operation out to about 8 or 9km (using my Nightforce 192x304mm scope, mounted, of course, on what are known as 'Uber-High' rings). After that distance, I begin to find that the Coriolis effect has a significant effect on the trajectory of the bullet.

I'm hoping that my latest wildcat, known as the .45-70 Bomassbiznatch, will actually actively counter the coriolis effect, through what I have dubbed 'the counter coriolis twist rate theorum'. It's a whole lot of sciency-speak gobbledy-gook (I'm sure the OP is more than capable of understanding it though, so he can PM me about this round if he likes), but the gist of it is, this bullet will fly straight for many km. The downside of it is, you need a different barrel for each direction you shoot in.