Sheep slaughtered by grizzlies

[CNP]

Grizzly bears kill 17 sheep and give lambs in SW AB.
https://www.westernwheel.ca/beyond-l...-ranch-8898775

[Big Sky]

“They’re majestic animals and we kind of admire them, and it’s too bad that they do that, but I don’t know what the solution is,” he said.

I know what the solution is. Reinstate the hunt.

[CBintheNorth]

"According to a 2021 province-wide census, the Alberta grizzly bear population is estimated to be between 856 and 973, a significant increase from previous years when it was below 700."

In 2006 the census was taken south of the yellow head, north of Waterton, and west of 22. I wonder which little corner of the province they are using now for the 'province-wide' census?

"Alberta Fish and Wildlife offers either full or partial compensation depending on whether an attack is a “confirmed” or “probable kill.” In the first case, ranchers receive full market value for the livestock. In the latter, they can receive half the full value but only if another kill by the same suspected predator occurs within three months and 10 kilometres of the original kill spot."

Why don't they use funds collected by PETA and Y2Y?

[Pathfinder76]

lol. Rare? My cousin had a grizzly kill all his sheep two weeks ago in SW Alberta as well. It’s been going on for years. Both the killing and the lying or ignorant biologists.

[Pathfinder76]

My dad tells a story of when he was a kid. He was sitting in a town hall meeting with the local biologist and bear experts. They were talking to a bunch of ranchers. The biologist got up and gave his speech. At one point he gave everyone a local population number for grizzlies. My dad said his uncle leaned over to him at that declaration and said: “That’s to bad. I killed everyone of them this spring.”

They were lying then and they are still lying now.

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

lol. Rare? My cousin had a grizzly kill all his sheep two weeks ago in SW Alberta as well. It’s been going on for years. Both the killing and the lying or ignorant biologists.

The grizzlies Ive been around prefer to kill and leave or bury so that the dead animal "tenderizes" so to speak...

Rare? Yeah, likely it is rare for a biologist who sits in a pod and uses a computer all day. You nailed it sir

[Smokinyotes]

If a grizzly was attacking my livestock it would get a bullet through its guts.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

lol. Rare? My cousin had a grizzly kill all his sheep two weeks ago in SW Alberta as well. It’s been going on for years. Both the killing and the lying or ignorant biologists.

Just another day in the woods a hundred years ago, we've come full circle. We get kills of various descriptions here regularly, mini horses and donkeys are apparently preferred menu items.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

If a grizzly was attacking my livestock it would get a bullet through its guts.

I had an old experienced cow puncher tell me, shoot them in the belly and they just go away and don't come back.

[Big Grey Wolf]

Always knew that wolves will kill upto a dozen moose or deer in one night hunt. Did not realize grizzly bears will do the same type of slaughter.

[Pioneer2]

in the middle of a grain field near Granum AB

[Geraldsh]

Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

Always knew that wolves will kill upto a dozen moose or deer in one night hunt. Did not realize grizzly bears will do the same type of slaughter.

Even coyotes will do it if they get into a herd of sheep with lambs.

[bezzola]

I didn’t know that wolves would kill that many moose in one night.

[waldedw]

Carnivorous predators think about very little but reproduction, eating and looking for something to eat, it's what keeps the species going, IMHO once they find a good easy food source there is only one thing to do, may not be pleasant but it has to happen. To relocated them is just a band aid on a cut that needs stitches. If it was my livestock I know what I would do.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Geraldsh

Even coyotes will do it if they get into a herd of sheep with lambs.

Dogs, weasels, fox, fisher, mink, cats, any predator.
Good thing penned up conditions don’t happen in the wild.
Although I can see wolves killing multiple times in a night, I’d like to see proof of wolves taking down a dozen moose/elk/deer in a single night.
No doubt they will take take down a cow and calf or even a couple cows and calves, I’d need proof of more than that though.
But ya never know……
Not because they wouldn’t, more because after they kill they will gorge and become sated and lethargic. Although there are some big packs that would require more.

[Ackleyman]

Seems like they get an adrenaline rush and into a frenzy on some easy pickings , not excactly a grizz but friend had chickens on farm all the time, dogs ignored them, then he got about 50 turkeys, poults, and one day come back from town, the birds were 3 months or so and German Shepherd had killed every last one.
It was all over for rover.

[Arctic]

Happens every year on the caribou calving grounds, ...... between grizzlies and wolves there's not that many survivors, but biologists sitting in front of their computors say it doesn't happen!

[jmullin]

Originally Posted by Big Sky

I know what the solution is. Reinstate the hunt.

It does seem like a no-brainer...

[huntinstuff]

Originally Posted by Arctic

Happens every year on the caribou calving grounds, ...... between grizzlies and wolves there's not that many survivors, but biologists sitting in front of their computors say it doesn't happen!

Exactly. You cant properly gauge whats going on unless you are actually seeing whats going on....plugging numbers into an Excel spreadsheet then "guesstimating" and predicting outcomes based on half assed information is why things dont work. But, these are the experts we have.....

For over 40 years you couldnt shoot a mule deer doe in our farm area. Literally thousands of them. Rules changed and guys started shooting them. Probably been almost 20 years and there are still thousands of them. Now you get 1 tag instead of 2.....I think these harvest reports have some part in this

[tallieho]

Article really doesn’t. But doesn’t the farmer get compensation from F&W. Also setting traps to move them. Ma bear has shown her cubs , easy meal. The whole works should be put down

[W921]

Well since the wolves have everything killed off that didn't run to town, mutton and beef all that's left.
Two days ago there was a 4 legged cougar in claresholm. Middle of day to.

[Dr Death]

Our hunting licence and tag fees pay the producers for confirmed losses. The majority comes from ACA. Their money comes from us.

[aarjay]

It would be nice if they would let us know where they release that bear. Don’t think I want that bear in my horse herd when I’m doing summer trips in the mountains.

[tallieho]

Shoot ,shovel & shut up comes to mind

[lannie]

About 5 years ago a Grizzly killed many sheep at the Livingstone Colony beside HWY 22.

[Grizzly Adams1]

Originally Posted by Dr Death

Our hunting licence and tag fees pay the producers for confirmed losses. The majority comes from ACA. Their money comes from us.

They'll wriggle out of paying any way they can find and compensation doesn't cover actual value.

[cowmanbob]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

They'll wriggle out of paying any way they can find and compensation doesn't cover actual value.

I’ve probably had more livestock compensation payouts than the average guy. I believe newborn calf loss is paid out based on fall weaned calf prices. The evidence of death by predator has to be there.

[Dmay]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

If a grizzly was attacking my livestock it would get a bullet through its guts.

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1

I had an old experienced cow puncher tell me, shoot them in the belly and they just go away and don't come back.

So you condone purposely gut-shooting an animal to let it suffer to death? Ya, for sure that's something to be proud of. Great example to put out there for kids, and especially for anti-hunters and tree-huggers. Alberta outdoorsman-of-the-year material right there!!!

[KC1]

Originally Posted by tallieho

Shoot ,shovel & shut up comes to mind

X2
Especially the SHUT UP part

[Smokinyotes]

Originally Posted by Dmay

So you condone purposely gut-shooting an animal to let it suffer to death? Ya, for sure that's something to be proud of. Great example to put out there for kids, and especially for anti-hunters and tree-huggers. Alberta outdoorsman-of-the-year material right there!!!

It has nothing to do with hunting or being an outdoorsman. It has everything to do with protecting my livestock because our government is incapable of managing the grizzly population.