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Old 05-26-2024, 07:05 PM
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Was kind of wandering what Model I have! I know I have a 54! but what model?
I thinking it's a model 1411 but don't know? Here are some pictures, might help out!?





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Old 05-27-2024, 01:08 AM
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Gun was proofed in 1963. As you know it is a 54 action with double set triggers and a medium sporter barrel. Model number was 1416, thought they came in a few different configurations under the same model. It sold for 76 bucks with the double set triggers, a 20 dollar option, back in the day. The recoil pad is not original. They are a great gun, shoot wonderfully and are perfectly balanced as a hunting rifle.

Given the stock shape and the mounting of the sling swivels,it would appear to be a rifle bought in Germany and brought back to Canada. This was very common back then as many Canadian soldiers posted oversees bought Euro guns at the PX and brought them back when they came back to Canada. A Crown grade Husqvarna in 308 could be had for $54 in 1963, so it tells you what a premium the Anschutz was selling for, even way back then.

Just for parts, this gun is worth significant dollars, as a whole rifle in great shape, it would be VERY hard to replace.

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Old 05-27-2024, 06:11 AM
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Thank's for that info! Yes it shoots a nice group! But will have to try some good ammo! This was shot at 50yds, 5 round each! with cheap federal ammo!




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Gun was proofed in 1963. As you know it is a 54 action with double set triggers and a medium sporter barrel. Model number was 1416, thought they came in a few different configurations under the same model. It sold for 76 bucks with the double set triggers, a 20 dollar option, back in the day. The recoil pad is not original. They are a great gun, shoot wonderfully and are perfectly balanced as a hunting rifle.

Given the stock shape and the mounting of the sling swivels,it would appear to be a rifle bought in Germany and brought back to Canada. This was very common back then as many Canadian soldiers posted oversees bought Euro guns at the PX and brought them back when they came back to Canada. A Crown grade Husqvarna in 308 could be had for $54 in 1963, so it tells you what a premium the Anschutz was selling for, even way back then.

Just for parts, this gun is worth significant dollars, as a whole rifle in great shape, it would be VERY hard to replace.

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Old 05-27-2024, 08:16 AM
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Gun was proofed in 1963. As you know it is a 54 action with double set triggers and a medium sporter barrel. Model number was 1416, thought they came in a few different configurations under the same model. It sold for 76 bucks with the double set triggers, a 20 dollar option, back in the day. The recoil pad is not original. They are a great gun, shoot wonderfully and are perfectly balanced as a hunting rifle.

Given the stock shape and the mounting of the sling swivels,it would appear to be a rifle bought in Germany and brought back to Canada. This was very common back then as many Canadian soldiers posted oversees bought Euro guns at the PX and brought them back when they came back to Canada. A Crown grade Husqvarna in 308 could be had for $54 in 1963, so it tells you what a premium the Anschutz was selling for, even way back then.

Just for parts, this gun is worth significant dollars, as a whole rifle in great shape, it would be VERY hard to replace.
I find that very confusing and VERY interesting at the same time Dean! LOL
The reason is, that every 1416 I have ever seen was a 64 action not a 54!
The sling swivel and the cheek piece are obviously European market though.
I never could figure out the various Anschtuz model designations, and the internet is no help as people get the action types mixed up at times, I have even seen 64 actioned rifles advertised on Guns International as 54's !
One thing is certain, if it is an Anschutz, even their cheaper lines are super well made!
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Was looking at the pictures again this morning and came to the conclusion that is is actually a 1424ST (ST stands for set trigger). I had missed the fact it has the Bavarian Style Cheek Piece on the non-Monte Carlo, classic stock.

Just saw Cat's post, Cat you are right, I had the model wrong in the first post. I have two 1416s in left hand, one from 1991 and one from 1985 and they are both 64 actions, as are all other 1416s. Brain fart.

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Was looking at the pictures again this morning and came to the conclusion that is is actually a 1424ST (ST stands for set trigger). I had missed the fact it has the Bavarian Style Cheek Piece on the non-Monte Carlo, classic stock.
Dean, I'm wondering if whoever replaced the butt plate with the recoil pad also maybe removed a Bavarian style comb that usually accompanys that style of European cheek piece and reconfigured to the straight comb?
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Dean, I'm wondering if whoever replaced the butt plate with the recoil pad also maybe removed a Bavarian style comb that usually accompanys that style of European cheek piece and reconfigured to the straight comb?
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It is possible, but they did make the sporters with a straight comb (Called Classic), Bavarian and Monte Carlo in 1963.
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Here is a picture of my 1727 in LH with the Bavarian cheek rest and Comb, just for comparisons sake.



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Thanks again! I don't know what the model # is all I know its a 54 action. I don't know what makes a model # against another? I may have to go to a Anschutz forum to figure that out!




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Was looking at the pictures again this morning and came to the conclusion that is is actually a 1424ST (ST stands for set trigger). I had missed the fact it has the Bavarian Style Cheek Piece on the non-Monte Carlo, classic stock.

Just saw Cat's post, Cat you are right, I had the model wrong in the first post. I have two 1416s in left hand, one from 1991 and one from 1985 and they are both 64 actions, as are all other 1416s. Brain fart.
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Go to Rimfire Central forum. They have a whole section for anschutz. More stuff than you would ever want to know. Short from, first two numbers, 14xx, 17xx is the series. Problem is anschutz used the same series numbers for 54 actions, 64 actions, Fortners etc. The next two numbers tell you the stock style. Then there are a series of letters that denote trigger, barrel weight, left vs right hand etc. Anschutz probably has the most convoluted and confusing model number structure of any maker I know of.

https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/anschutz.16/

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Old 05-27-2024, 06:30 PM
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I will do that! Thanks!

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Go to Rimfire Central forum. They have a whole section for anschutz. More stuff than you would ever want to know. Short from, first two numbers, 14xx, 17xx is the series. Problem is anschutz used the same series numbers for 54 actions, 64 actions, Fortners etc. The next two numbers tell you the stock style. Then there are a series of letters that denote trigger, barrel weight, left vs right hand etc. Anschutz probably has the most convoluted and confusing model number structure of any maker I know of.

https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/anschutz.16/
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Old 05-27-2024, 08:16 PM
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Why did you go to 1424ST ? Just a question?


QUOTE=Dean2;4725898]Go to Rimfire Central forum. They have a whole section for anschutz. More stuff than you would ever want to know. Short from, first two numbers, 14xx, 17xx is the series. Problem is anschutz used the same series numbers for 54 actions, 64 actions, Fortners etc. The next two numbers tell you the stock style. Then there are a series of letters that denote trigger, barrel weight, left vs right hand etc. Anschutz probably has the most convoluted and confusing model number structure of any maker I know of.

https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/anschutz.16/[/QUOTE]
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