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Old 06-08-2023, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1 View Post
Sounds like you drank the Kool Aid. A fair quantity of drones and missiles coming from Iran, theoretically, they have a large number of tanks, but most of those are obsolete or just plain mechanically unfit. Even the ones they fielded initially were very vulnerable to modern anti tank weapons, notice the Russian tanks with bed springs mounted over the turret ? This war is as likely to get as large as we let it, Russians might not be brilliant strategists, but they are stubborn.


https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/19/europ...-ml/index.html

Grizz
Sorry Grizz, but even the Ukes admit that the missile production is continuing and growing. Of course, they have also been saying that the Russians are out missiles back in 2022 and we see several times a week how that goes, so their numbers are… Well, pounds of salt and such.

Defense Express: Russian Kinzhal missile production ramps up fivefold - Defense Express
Kiev Independent: Ukraine's defense intelligence: Russia able to produce up to 67 missiles per month

Then there are, of course, actual experts on the subject indicating that Russians did increase their missile production and actually had some “tweaking” by making some of the missiles slightly less accurate (probably due to the limited access to the tech) and fire the higher precision missiles at the high priority targets. You can probably find about their tank production. I really do not believe this discussion changes anything or anyone’s minds, so don’t really see a point

They ain’t no “miracle” by any means, by the way, lol. The main point and take away is that they are still producing high enough quantities to bring a significant amount of hurt and continue fighting. It is pretty clear at this point (at least to me anyway) that even where there are shortages, there are still means to produce more and keep fighting. The propaganda about them fighting with bear hands and shovels is just that and nothing more. Plus, as times goes on, there will be new ways to go around sanctions, increase production further, come up with new things, etc. Time is on their side. So like I said, it’ll be over when it is over and hopefully that comes sooner rather than later. Things could be worse because they could have really stocked up on all this stuff in the previous years.
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