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Originally Posted by elkhunter11

That article has contradicting arguments from several experts. Seeing as how even the experts don't agree on how much of a factor hydrostatic shock is, I certainly wouldn't rely on hydrostatic shock to provide the kills on the animals that I hunt.
I have used bullets ranging from Ballistic Tips, to Partitions to Accubonds, to the TSX/TTSX/MRX to hunt big game, and I have seen quick kills, and not so quick kills from them all, depending on the shot placement, and impact velocity. Based on past experience, I now use the TTSX in my 7mmstw whenever I hunt elk or moose, or on combined species hunt, because when driven at high velocity, they always seem to expand adequately, and they always provide more than enough penetration. When hunting deer or similar sized game with my 270wsm or 6.5x55 or my 243win, I use Accubonds, because they provide dramatic expansion, with plenty of penetration for deer sized game. I shot a coyote at 250 yards, couple of years ago using the 140gr TTSX in my 7mmstw, and the damage was very extensive, it certainly didn't pencil through without expanding, in spite of the animal being so small.

Originally Posted by chuck

Horse feathers. I've driven bullets through hips to get to vital organs more than once. But it sure as shootin wasn't a Berger or a ballistic tip.

Now here's a couple guys who understand guns, shooting and ballistics quite well. No crap about, "I'm a guide so I know best" or "One time I failed so it's gotta be the equipment's fault". Just two guys with a heck of a lot of experience behind them that are willing to share it. I have learned a lot from both on this forum...and in fact they are the reason I have NOT tried Barnes bullets. While they have shown plenty of evidence that they will do the job, it's the finicky loading characteristics that don't impress me. While I do hand load, I don't have the patience to be fiddle farting with seating depth and chasing velocity to find perfection. I'm sure I could make em work, but it seems to be a bother I'm not interested in.