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Old 01-03-2012, 10:47 PM
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The crime of homicide is selected for two reasons. First, unlike other crimes, the definition of homicide tends to be fairly consistent across nations, thus enabling international comparisons....

Source: Statistics Canada, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Homicide Survey; Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Department of Justice, Washington, D.C.; Australian Institute of Criminology; and England & Wales Home Office.

All four countries reported that...
The FBI's Uniform Crime Statistics tracks "homicide" differently than we do. Was your source using the Uniform statistics or using the Expanded Homicide Statistics (which are separate)? Do you care?

How come U.S. murder rates have been falling faster than ours for a decade?

Did you know that U.S. murder rates were higher than ours when neither country had any gun control? Does any of that matter to you?

Stats Canada tracks "murder" rates differently over time and differently in regions. Thus:

In Canadian law, murder is the most serious form of culpable homicide (the others being manslaughter and infanticide). Broadly stated, it is the act of unlawfully causing the death of another person intentionally, or recklessly with intent to cause bodily harm. The legal definition of murder and its several specific forms has undergone numerous changes since 1961.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/11-516-...147446-eng.htm

Now, what was that you were saying about "overall" rates of "homicide" and guns and "easy comparisons" between U.S., England, Australia and Canada?

It is useful to look at changes within a country because that removes international variables. Morton Grove, ILL. banned handguns in 1981. In 1982, some dummass rednecks in Kennesaw GA responded by passing an Ordinance requiring every able-bodied, sane homeowner in Kennesaw to have a gun and ammunition therefor on hand at all times in his/her house.

Morton Grove's murder, violent crime and gun crime rates skyrocketed.

Kennesaw's murder, violent crime, gun crime and every other crime rate dropped into the basement. The Kennesaw area became one of the safest, fastest-growing areas in the region. That happened almost immediately.

Hell, I dunno. Could be a coincidence.

(Read John Lott's work. And Kleck. Oh, and watch for an upcoming peer-reviewed publication by Dr. Caillin Langmann from Ontario. It'll knock your socks off.)
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