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Originally Posted by Stinky Coyote
Well, have i got a cartridge for you. 
How bout the trajectory, ballistic coefficient and section density of a .308 pushing 168's with 55 % less recoil?
Sounds pretty good doesn't it. You won't do more for 28 grains of powder, there's your efficiency king. 6.5 Grendel...you're welcome. 
Ruger just announced the american ranch, should be a fun little end of the world bang stick. 36" long carbine, takes those 10 round 'AR' pistol mags legally and by all accounts so far should be sub-moa capable carbine that starts at 6.1 lbs. Future proofed with threaded barrel...should wisdom rule the roost one day and we can protect the world from noise pollution?  Apocalypse defense, up to 400 on the big ones, up to 600 on the little ones, steel as far as you dare...all day long. Barrel life up the whazzoo.
Ya'll know my choice. Keep adding to the family, might have to sell one soon to make room for the one on the way.
Kid just bang flopped his first at 238 yards this past november with one as i transition to guide. I had the scope on a few but meh, season was made when that happened, still had a little moose left lol.
While i'm at it...pretty tough to argue with that .270 150 partition! Of the old world cartridges, that's my favorite also. Bit more focused on big game hunting only though. A combo that stands the test of time, was ahead of it's time.
Annnnd...270 Person...Hilarious!  |
Hey Stinky Coyote
I am very familiar with the 6.5 Grendel, a friend of mine has two, one is a SLR and the other a Howa Mini. I do see the appeal, but I own 3 6.5 creedmoors (who needs variety). One of which is a Ruger American predator that I am going to shorten the barrel down to 18.25, I won’t miss the threads I won’t use. If, as you and I both hope, we can one day run suppressors, I’ll have it threaded again.
I agree that Grendel is an efficient little cartridge, but there in lies the problem, it’s a little cartridge. It can’t do anything my 6.5 creeds downloaded won’t do, but can never match the potential of a full creed load. That is why I won’t be getting a Grendel, I handload and can make my creeds behave like a Grendel if I want to, can’t go the other way though.
Where the Grendel makes the absolute most sense to me is in the SLR or other AR15 pattern rifles. It is at home best in rifles made to fire 223 and makes them a viable big game hunting rifle. If Ruger made the mini 14 in 6.5 grendel I’d be looking to get my hands on one! But a rifle that has a full sized short action (sounds like an oxymoron, lol) is better off being chambered in a full short action cartridge. The Howa mini isn’t that much smaller than a regular short action, not enough for me to accept the losses that come with the chamberings (intermediate cartridges).
Now, down the rabbit hole we go.... why buy a creed when the PRC can be downloaded to creed levels but the creed not able to achieve PRC levels.... I know I know. And again, I do not believe the 6.5 creedmoor is the greatest cartridge ever, there are in fact countless better ones. I just feel it is an excellent balance of powder consumption, recoil, ability to take big game, barrel life, resistance to wind drift and availability. There are many better cartridges at any one, sometimes even multiple, of those criteria, but better at all of them, that’s a short list.
I’m not bashing the Grendel, just sharing my opinion.
Happy hunting