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Old 07-11-2018, 12:09 PM
IronNoggin IronNoggin is offline
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Originally Posted by SlimChance View Post
Have they provided any numbers as to how much they expect fisheries closures will effect populations?
No, not at all. They are "guessing" that since these areas are important to those who fish for salmon, that they must therefore be important to the whales in question. And they actually admit doing so with no information for the vast majority of these areas to justify that position.

Since the whales' use of the areas is simply conjecture, they do not go any further and suggest anything like how such closures might be expected to effect the whale populations in question. Certainly not in terms of numbers...

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Have they done anything else to create better habitat for the whales?
Absolutely nothing.
The coalition of the 5 greenie NGO's that have threatened them with a lawsuit has them running very VERY Scared. The result is this knee-jerk reaction we have before us today. And that is simply all it is, a reaction to appease the squeaky wheel greenies, based once again not on proper science, but guesswork. No other considerations are being given at this point in time beyond closures of even more areas...

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Originally Posted by Marty S View Post
... As the recreational fishery dwarfs the commercial fishery in terms of money generated, it is desirable to continue the sport industry which employs the most people and generates the most income. If anything should be restricted, it should be the commercial fishery as it impacts the last number of people and generates the least income.
Very good responses all the way down to this one.
I do understand what you were getting at, however this is a misplaced sentiment in this particular matter.

The recreational catch of springs has far surpassed that of the commercial troll fleet for a great many years now. Simple fact. The commercial fleets have been greatly reduced in numbers, and their quotas slashed to what used to suffice for a week or two. Area G Troll this year received a total of 15,000 chinook. The recreational fleet is geared to harvest between 50 & 60,000.
Both sectors are in this together. For perhaps the first time I am aware of it, commercial interests and recreational are standing shoulder to shoulder to collectively combat this foolishness. As they should IMHO.

The only thing I might add is that these areas are largely being selected based on guesswork. The proper science has not been conducted. To suggest limiting access to the five coastal communities whose very existence relies on that access, based on conjecture, borders on criminal.

Many Thanks to those that stood up and got their comments in. It is truly appreciated! It seems these days more and more our governments seem to believe they can simply govern us like sheep, with no consideration of the consequences of their actions. Many are starting to rebel against such control, and demanding accountability. My hat is off to those from here who join us in doing so in these matters!!

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Originally Posted by Habfan View Post
Those who appose our way of life ! Kinda sounds like the pipeline protesters holding the economy of all of Canada up.
Like it was fishermen and their communities who were protesting?
Methinks NOT, and that would make your reluctance to help out brothers in need based on ignorance, no?

Deadline for Comments is TODAY Folks!

Again, many Thanks to those who chose to help us fight this nastiness...
Matt
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