Its a tough hunt....period.
Deer hunters probably wont make it easier on elk guys,the elk just become more wary.
You put miles on,look at everything....sometimes miles away from a tree.
I put alot of time into late season hunt last year and only had one good chance at elk,deliberately wrecked by 2 ********s from Bassano area(i know because i talked to them day before).
I dont know what the success rate of these hunts are now(they had map down in office last time i tried to check) but its gotts be pretty low.
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