I know the few live ones I catch have one of 2 problems ...either the spring didn't go off ,or the catch was made deep down the neck and the heavy fur plugged the locks so they couldn't slide enough to fully close ...this is all on prairie caught dogs where anchoring is all low with stakes or bush tie ups...haven't caught enough tree site dogs to comment on them ...again with Marty set up. I don't see why lights out products woukd be any different as far as problems go .
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