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Old 09-28-2023, 02:01 PM
ruffy71 ruffy71 is offline
 
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The division Hunka was in was formed after almost every Jew, Roma and "other" had been rounded up in Ukraine.

There were Ukrainians, and Slovaks, and Lithuanians, and Germans, and... that participated in the sadistic deeds of the SS. They should be extradited even if they are about to draw their last breath. There was Demaniuk (not spelled right) who was suspected of guarding at a concentration camp. I think he was a guard but I cannot be 100% sure and he should have been on the first plane to Israel.

Hunka, likely never involved in any of that, but anybody who puts on that uniform should never be recognized or celebrated.

What that division may have gotten involved in was killing Polish civilians, but even that is not likely. Also, that had nothing to do with Nazis. Nobody knows or is taught, but Ukraine and Poland fought a war just 20 years prior to WW2. Tens of thousands of killed. One of maybe couple of dozen wars between them since the 14th century.

The Polish would have despised those soldiers even if they had been wearing Scottish kilts. Any killing of civilians is terrible, needs to be acknowledged, but for Poland to claim they have been the historical victim of Ukrainian aggression is, farcical. Poland and Ukraine have a lot of work to do to acknowledge the wrongs that ebbed and flowed over that land for hundreds of years. Fun fact, France and England have fought 41 wars and are now allies and buds.

If they can do it, so can Poland and Ukraine, and eventually, so can Ukraine and Russia.


What should be the point of all this? After WW2, and the unbelievable death that modern science could bring to battle field, nations, Europe, and to some extent the world has taken faint stabs at saying "borders are borders, empires and the endless wars they bring are a thing of the past"

Except of course good 'ol Putin and just enough Russians to support him so that he can't be overthrown, still think the old way is still the way to go.

Back to land wars in Europe and 10's of thousands dead.
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