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Old 09-17-2022, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fishnguy View Post
It is not a controversy, but a dying bread. 14 photos doesn’t mean 14 people. How would a line be of those who do not care? I am saying it with no disrespect to the Queen, or the fans. From a Guardian article:

Currently, only 47% of 18- to 24-year-olds say Britain should continue to have a monarchy, compared with 86% of Britons aged 65 and over. Even this level of support among young people may be temporarily inflated: just 33% had voiced their desire to keep the crown in May, at the time of the platinum jubilee.

Such disillusionment is a relatively new development. As recently as 2015, 69% of 18- to 24-year-olds said that Britain should remain a monarchy. By 2018 this had fallen to 47%, and in polls from 2020 onwards, prior to the Queen’s death, it has averaged at just 35%.

The present level of support for an elected head of state among under-25s (33%) is largely in line with the average since 2020 (37%). Prior to late 2019, that figure had never been higher than 24%. By contrast, the oldest Britons – those aged 65 and over – have remained resolutely in favour of the institution.

The notion that the monarchy is good for the country also no longer seems to wash with young people. While 61% of 18– to 24-year-olds were convinced of the benefits in 2015, today that figure stands at 33%, and the 24% it was in May probably better reflects attitudes in more stable times.

Similarly, young Britons are split 40% to 39% on whether the royal family represents good or bad value for money. And even among all the displays of patriotism commemorating the Queen’s death, just 31% of 18- to 24-year-olds say they are proud of the British monarchy. The same number say they are embarrassed.


I have a feeling, given the decision was up to people, as in majority makes the call, we (Canadians) would be abolishing it tomorrow. Pretty weird concept that serves no purpose in either country, really. The buck or two per person in Canada, while insignificant on an individual level, adds up to a good amount that could be put to a much better use instead. Not, of course, that it would be put to a better use, but that is not the point, and maybe it would be wasted on people of this country… maybe.
These polls… usually bought for media purposes are self serving for media.

For instance… in Canada… Trudeau had a huge majority of the younger demographic. As the demographic aged… so too did their political opinions. What we don’t know is of the older demographic in the UK that likes the monarchy… what did they think when they were younger.

We also know that polls reflect a short window of opinion. Look back to what has changed recently…. Prince Andrew definitely harmed the feelings towards the monarchy as did likely Harry’s statements about racism.

On one hand one says 14 signs out of 100,000 attendees mean doom. At the same time one ignores thousands of Twitter statements against PP as being Liberal plants.

There is something to be said about tradition and history and while some protest tearing down statues to preserve history… some say dissolve the monarchy.

I would hesitate to suggest that the majority don’t really care either way in Canada. That they see more wrongs that need to be fixed here and that this is just another great deflection for the government in power. There are costs and risks to opening up the constitution to make changes. Costs to change many systems. What are they? I don’t know but I do know for me this topic is far over shadowed by inflation, healthcare, debt, jobs in Canada.

Also can you post this link?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society/...pinion-stand-m

It’s a company that pays people for polls. This means the polling is very biased towards people that want to give opinions. Normally it skews to people upset as people are more apt to complain.

Interesting poll they did here. https://yougov.co.uk/topics/lifestyl...t-heterosexual 1 in 2 young people are not heterosexual. This isn’t to derail but to point out a question as to the legitimacy of the poll information you put forth as an argument. If you believe one… based upon their poll you must believe in them all. Picking and closing is also a confirmation bias risk.
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