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Old 06-05-2014, 11:49 AM
qwert qwert is offline
 
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Originally Posted by CptnBlues63 View Post
Thanks for the links, it's very helpful. Some seriously heavy reading there so I'm going to go through it all later. Before reading anything else, I'm going to read up on ITAR and follow some of the links from there. I've booked marked the others you've posted.

After a quick perusal though I can tell you I won't be bringing ammo home again. Just some fishing equipment and cigars
I am happy that you found the links helpful, I must admit that I posted them somewhat 'tongue in cheek' in an attempt to inform you of the complexity of the problem and to counter the all to common misinformation that Canadian laws and regulation are the only problem. I have only skimmed them myself.

Anybody who travels needs to be aware that 'in their sandbox, they make the rules'. Even a superficial reading of the links will show that there are hidden gotchas that place anybody at risk of unintentional violation and the consequences could be both severe and expensive. Many people have concluded that the US is now a fully developed police state and their informed opinion has caused me to avoid any cross border travel, which is sad because I have had many pleasurable visits in the past.

FT seems to be a reasonable guy who I am sure I would like to meet on this side of the line, but I would caution him to also be careful when he crosses the line to visit. I am sure he knows not to bring his firearms without getting our paperwork, but if he returns without his ITAR scope he could be in big trouble back home. A strict interpretation of the rules may require him to take his (exported) fired brass back with him, (but his temp PAL allows him to purchase ammo in Canada). Similarly we need to be very careful before asking a southern friend or relative (or small business) to send us something that is easily available for them but expensive or hard to get here. Larger businesses often have specialist clerks to handle international shipments and they are knowledgeable and experienced, Brownells and Grafs are very good.

Canadians who travel south to shoot can get permits for their guns and ammo, but they cannot replace the ammo they shoot, and if they win a case of trap shells at a meet they cannot take possession or bring them back.

I hope those cigars aren't Cuban.
Good Luck,
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