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Ken07AOVette 01-20-2020 11:25 PM

Covid 19: Medical / Technical Thread
 
If this gains ground we may all go out with a whimper.

And I had such a good day today. :(

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/healt...hnk/index.html

calgarychef 01-20-2020 11:58 PM

Yup China really needs to clean up a little bit. Every major flu begins in China that’s a fact. Plague is a bacteria and that’s treatable with antibiotics..this flu isn’t and can’t be.

TBark 01-21-2020 02:55 AM

My youngest son flyers thru Hong Kong next week coming to Australia.
He has a 13hr lay-over.
I told him to stay in intl connections and not to go nowhere.

TBark

trophybook 01-21-2020 06:44 AM

Chinese bio warfare imo.

Grizzly Adams 01-21-2020 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calgarychef (Post 4096835)
Yup China really needs to clean up a little bit. Every major flu begins in China that’s a fact. Plague is a bacteria and that’s treatable with antibiotics..this flu isn’t and can’t be.

Massive over population and super dense crowding, human version of Factory Farming. :D No fix for viruses and they mutate readily to defeat counter measures.

Grizz

58thecat 01-21-2020 07:56 AM

hmmm packed too tight...over populated in areas....it's going to happen.

bdub 01-21-2020 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calgarychef (Post 4096835)
Yup China really needs to clean up a little bit. Every major flu begins in China that’s a fact. Plague is a bacteria and that’s treatable with antibiotics..this flu isn’t and can’t be.

Check out Wuhan meat market. They sell every kind of live and dead animals there, butchering them on site. The viruses mutate from animal into human strains and then take off like crazy. Last time around the Chinese government suppressed the news of the progress of the disease until it became a pandemic. We'll see what happens this time around but they seem to have a quicker jump on it vs the SARS outbreak.

Scott h 01-21-2020 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 4096907)
hmmm packed too tight...over populated in areas....it's going to happen.

That's why they are buying up Canada. They need a little extra space and our country will do nicely......

Sledhead71 01-21-2020 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB (Post 4096938)
Hoping for a population reduction!

Wishing death to others is a really douche comment.

javlin101 01-21-2020 09:39 AM

Me thinks I will have to re-think my business trip to China this spring. :sign0161:

pikergolf 01-21-2020 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledhead71 (Post 4096965)
Wishing death to others is a really douche comment.

Yup.

Ken07AOVette 01-21-2020 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB (Post 4096938)
Hoping for a population reduction!

Are you under some horrible stress lately or something?

Your replies are getting way more aggressive and mean than I have ever seen from you, this is not like you.

That was really a disgusting thing to say, we hear of hundreds truth is it may be thousands and numbers double almost daily.

fishtank 01-21-2020 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette (Post 4096975)
Are you under some horrible stress lately or something?

Your replies are getting way more aggressive and mean than I have ever seen from you, this is not like you.

That was really a disgusting thing to say, we hear of hundreds truth is it may be thousands and numbers double almost daily.

He just putting his thoughts and ideology in words....

Quote:

Wishing death to others is a really douche comment.
X2

Grizzly Adams 01-21-2020 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javlin101 (Post 4096968)
Me thinks I will have to re-think my business trip to China this spring. :sign0161:

I was signed up to go in September. They couldn't find enough people willing to go, so they cancelled the tour. Told my kids to watch for me on TV, I'll be the one smiling and waving the hand cuffs. :lol:

Grizz

HVA7mm 01-21-2020 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBark (Post 4096845)
My youngest son flyers thru Hong Kong next week coming to Australia.
He has a 13hr lay-over.
I told him to stay in intl connections and not to go nowhere.

TBark

One of the reasons I’ll fly through Japan or Singapore.

JDK71 01-21-2020 11:16 AM

shut down all planes going in and out till they get it under control

WhiteTailAB 01-21-2020 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette (Post 4096975)
Are you under some horrible stress lately or something?

Your replies are getting way more aggressive and mean than I have ever seen from you, this is not like you.

That was really a disgusting thing to say, we hear of hundreds truth is it may be thousands and numbers double almost daily.

"The death toll from a flu-like virus in China climbed to six and new cases surged beyond 300 on Tuesday"

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020...s-factbox.html

Tell me where you got hundreds or thousands that have died?

You're overly sensitive.

Grizzly Adams 01-21-2020 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDK71 (Post 4097007)
shut down all planes going in and out till they get it under control

Co worker of my daughter in Law went to China on a visit and brought back Bird Flu. she died as a result, luckily she didn't pass the infection on. Nothing to be trifled with.

Grizz

Ken07AOVette 01-21-2020 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB (Post 4097014)
"The death toll from a flu-like virus in China climbed to six and new cases surged beyond 300 on Tuesday"

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020...s-factbox.html

Tell me where you got hundreds or thousands that have died?

You're overly sensitive.

Experts in the UK told the BBC the number of people infected could still be far greater than official figures suggest, with estimates closer to 1,700.

you are wanting genocide?


Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB View Post
Hoping for a population reduction!


Overly sensitive?

Cases TRIPLED over the weekend. Tripling every 2 days.

300 is 900 by tuesday
2700 by thursday.
8100 by saturday.
24,000 73,000 218,000 656,000 2,000,000 in 14 days if the trend continues. Do you ever look past your own hand?

Millions of chinese are preparing to travel for Lunar new Year holiday.

Are you one of the 'who cares, there's a billion more behind them' guys? Because we go there and they come here.

Ken07AOVette 01-21-2020 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDK71 (Post 4097007)
shut down all planes going in and out till they get it under control

This!

bloopbloob 01-21-2020 12:00 PM

It's already here I guess... I just read about the first confirmed case of the coronavirus in the US, in Washington State. No stopping it at this point. World is interconnected with easy travel, and it takes 2-3 days for symptoms to even appear. That cat will not be going back in the bag.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...virus-us-case/

WhiteTailAB 01-21-2020 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette (Post 4097026)
Experts in the UK told the BBC the number of people infected could still be far greater than official figures suggest, with estimates closer to 1,700.

you are wanting genocide?


Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB View Post
Hoping for a population reduction!


Overly sensitive?

Cases TRIPLED over the weekend. Tripling every 2 days.

300 is 900 by tuesday
2700 by thursday.
8100 by saturday.
24,000 73,000 218,000 656,000 2,000,000 in 14 days if the trend continues. Do you ever look past your own hand?

Millions of chinese are preparing to travel for Lunar new Year holiday.

Are you one of the 'who cares, there's a billion more behind them' guys? Because we go there and they come here.


Theres been 6 deaths, I would be extremely surprised if 2,000,000 are infected within 2 weeks. Panic all you want, make your daily dramatic post and hit the ignore button if you don't like what I say man.

JD848 01-21-2020 12:08 PM

When sars started in 2003 only then did they shut down the airlines it reached other parts of the world.

I really think that we don't hear the real numbers ,i maybe very wrong, but just a thought.

Shut all airlines if it doubles one more time in very short time,becuase then it's like an avalanche of sick people going abroad travelling.

Heat sensors for body temps at many airports and rail lines or transit movements monitoring thousands if not millions already,so for only 300 sick it's like using a sledge hammer to crack a walnut,so I think it's something bigger then we realize.

Hope for the sake of the people I am wrong.

JD

Twisted Canuck 01-21-2020 12:09 PM

I heard 6 confirmed deaths from the coronavirus so far. 5 minutes later on the news, 8 deaths from the flu in Edmonton so far this season, something like 32 or 36 in Canada. I guess our epidemic is worse than theirs?

More scare mongering as far as I'm concerned, a big nothing burger. Hope I'm not wrong about it though.

JD848 01-21-2020 12:11 PM

I thought I just read 300 in a short time,my mistake.

Ken07AOVette 01-21-2020 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB (Post 4097036)
Theres been 6 deaths, I would be extremely surprised if 2,000,000 are infected within 2 weeks. Panic all you want, make your daily dramatic post and hit the ignore button if you don't like what I say man.

Daily dramatic post?

You think I came up with this?

:bad_boys_20:

JD848 01-21-2020 12:15 PM

First case just hit the usa ,just got a news flash on my new phone.

Arachnodisiac 01-21-2020 12:18 PM

First American case in Washington state, which is a really weird first place. I don't think there are any Asia-direct flights there, so probably through Seattle I am guessing?

I love epidemiology, but pandemics were more interesting before I became a paramedic. :thinking-006:

AndrewM 01-21-2020 12:22 PM

Shutting down the whole country to travel due to 200 seems like a good idea but that would be like shutting down Canada due to 5 cases with 0 deaths.

Ken07AOVette 01-21-2020 12:29 PM

well let's let it play out over the next few weeks and see what happens.

They better get a handle on this.


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