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Dweb 05-11-2018 02:54 PM

Wanting new 6.5 creedmoor
 
I had a savage axis chambered in 6.5 creedmoor and sold it , I want another rifle chambered the same but want something better.

Anyone recommend a 6.5 creedmoor they have had good results with.?

Thanks

Stinky Coyote 05-11-2018 02:57 PM

what ya gonna do with it? budget?

this one looks like a good hunter
http://www.sako.fi/rifles/sako-a7/a7-roughtech-pro

about five steps above that savage at i'm sure 3x the price but you could quit shopping with that one

this one looks sweet too
http://www.browning.com/products/fir...-bolt-pro.html

for precision style rifles you would be hard pressed to beat the tikka ctr or a howa chassis rifle

Dweb 05-11-2018 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinky Coyote (Post 3784025)
what ya gonna do with it? budget?

this one looks like a good hunter
http://www.sako.fi/rifles/sako-a7/a7-roughtech-pro

about five steps above that savage at i'm sure 3x the price but you could quit shopping with that one

this one looks sweet too
http://www.browning.com/products/fir...-bolt-pro.html

for precision style rifles you would be hard pressed to beat the tikka ctr or a howa chassis rifle

Just going to use it for deer hunting and varmint , budget to 1200$ or so

Big Thumper 05-11-2018 05:10 PM

Buy a weatherby vanguard for 800.00 (or a bit less) excellent rifles and really good shooters. In my opinion, about the best value in the market.

obsessed1 05-11-2018 05:20 PM

Bergaras are great rifles. Rem 700 clone. Have 3 d8fferent buddies with them......holy smokes those rifles shoot

SakoShooter 05-11-2018 07:58 PM

I have a Ruger Hawkeye Predator in 6.5 creedmoor, medium contour barrel and laminate stainless configuration. It's the first Ruger I've owned with a decent trigger, the two stage target trigger really is first rate.

Pretty sure you can find this rifle for $1,300 or so, mine is extremely accurate and a good conbination of light enough to carry, and solid enough for range time.

Pretty much every rifle manufacturer now chambers the 6.5 creed of course, just avoid the "value" guns and you'll be fine....those are for a .308 that you dust off for hunting season, you will want to shoot the 6.5 a lot.

Halfton 05-12-2018 02:25 AM

I just picked up a Ruger American 6.5 Creedmoor in Rugers Go Wild Camo edition. It is a lil different then the other Americans in that it comes with a threaded muzzle break, adjustable trigger, comes with a scope rail and uses the new AI style magazines.
I haven't had a chance to shoot it as I am new to the 6.5's and am still gathering components to load some rounds for it. I kind of like what I see so far from just handling it and the quality seems to be ok.....but then I like Rugers products anyways and have owned several No 1's and M77's over the years.
https://i.imgur.com/QOGHITy.jpg

Jim

Halfton 05-12-2018 02:33 AM

Double posted somehow....sorry


Jim

elkhunter11 05-12-2018 06:48 AM

If you are going to get a 6.5 Creemoor, it should be in the appropriate color.:sHa_sarcasticlol:

http://www.winchesterguns.com/conten...iginal.img.jpg

Pathfinder76 05-12-2018 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 3784280)
If you are going to get a 6.5 Creemoor, it should be in the appropriate color.:sHa_sarcasticlol:

http://www.winchesterguns.com/conten...iginal.img.jpg

Why do you say that?

elkhunter11 05-12-2018 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 3784284)
Why do you say that?

If you are going with the trendiest cartridge, you might as well get it in a trendy color. :sHa_sarcasticlol:

Pathfinder76 05-12-2018 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 3784286)
If you are going with the trendiest cartridge, you might as well get it in a trendy color. :sHa_sarcasticlol:

Is pink trendy?

Kurt505 05-12-2018 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 3784286)
If you are going with the trendiest cartridge, you might as well get it in a trendy color. :sHa_sarcasticlol:

Hmmmmm, I wonder why it's so popular? I think it's probably because a lot of people who are professionals in the sport of shooting can't say enough good things about it.

I get it though, some people figure if it worked for them once then it's all they ever need.

sns2 05-12-2018 08:19 AM

I want a 6.5 Creedmoor as my next rifle.

I have had a hankering to try one of these Bergaras. Where does a guy get one?

elkhunter11 05-12-2018 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3784298)
Hmmmmm, I wonder why it's so popular? I think it's probably because a lot of people who are professionals in the sport of shooting can't say enough good things about it.

I get it though, some people figure if it worked for them once then it's all they ever need.

Marketing sells, the Creedmoor was marketed very well, and quality factory loads were made available. Many people want to shoot what the pros shoot, or what is trendy, and being both, made the Creedmoor a quick seller. Yes it performs well, as does the 6.5x47L, but the 6.5x47L was not marketed like the Creedmoor, so it didn't become popular. The Creedmoor leaves more room for the bullet in an AR magazine than the 260rem, but most hunters are not using AR magazines, so they really wouldn't see any significant difference between a 260rem, a 6.5 Creedmoor, or the 6.5x47L. Accuracy wise, or recoil wise, the average shooter would never see a difference between the three cartridges. And for the people that purchase a Tikka in 6.5 Creedmoor, the 6.5x55 produces slightly more velocity , has the same action length, and again, the average shooter will not notice any difference. I have heard several people that know little to nothing about ballistics proclaim that they are purchasing a 6.5 Creedmoor, and they are doing so because of marketing. It's no different than with the 300WSM vs the 300SAUM, the 300WSM was marketed much better than the SAUM, so it sold much better.

bubba300 05-12-2018 09:12 AM

X2 on the Vanguard S2
They are a little heavy but good shooters out of the box.I have one in 6.5 CM.
I have shot it to 500 yards(target) and it usally stays under MOA.
I have had 4 vanguards and have bin happy with all of them.

Dweb 05-12-2018 09:27 AM

Thanks for the replys everyone !

Scottmisfits 05-12-2018 09:48 AM

I really like my Remington 700’s. For me there is one major drawback, and it’s personal preference and nothing more. I wish it had a locking bolt safety from the factory. Walking around in the bush and trees I have had my bolt open up on me and I didn’t notice.
Again, it’s not big, but something I would like a solution too at a reasonable expense. $200 US doesn’t seem reasonable for that.

I would have no problems with the Howa/Weatherby rifle. The 1500/Vangaurd is what we got for my son and it’s quite the rifle. It has a three position safety, and I like that, but again, that’s personal preference.

Dweb 05-12-2018 10:07 AM

I'm going to look at the vanguard

Dweb 05-12-2018 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 3784280)
If you are going to get a 6.5 Creemoor, it should be in the appropriate color.:sHa_sarcasticlol:

http://www.winchesterguns.com/conten...iginal.img.jpg

That would be a perfect colour for me ! After I'm done I can hand it down to my daughter :) great idea

Kurt505 05-12-2018 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 3784320)
Marketing sells, the Creedmoor was marketed very well, and quality factory loads were made available. Many people want to shoot what the pros shoot, or what is trendy, and being both, made the Creedmoor a quick seller. Yes it performs well, as does the 6.5x47L, but the 6.5x47L was not marketed like the Creedmoor, so it didn't become popular. The Creedmoor leaves more room for the bullet in an AR magazine than the 260rem, but most hunters are not using AR magazines, so they really wouldn't see any significant difference between a 260rem, a 6.5 Creedmoor, or the 6.5x47L. Accuracy wise, or recoil wise, the average shooter would never see a difference between the three cartridges. And for the people that purchase a Tikka in 6.5 Creedmoor, the 6.5x55 produces slightly more velocity , has the same action length, and again, the average shooter will not notice any difference. I have heard several people that know little to nothing about ballistics proclaim that they are purchasing a 6.5 Creedmoor, and they are doing so because of marketing. It's no different than with the 300WSM vs the 300SAUM, the 300WSM was marketed much better than the SAUM, so it sold much better.

You're wrong in a few points.

Why do you think so many quality factory loads were made available for the Creedmoor over say the 260rem? It's because the manufacturers could see the potential of its design and knew it was going to be more than just a fad.

The significant difference between the 260rem, 6.5x47 Lapua and even the 6.5x55 swede and the 6.5 Creedmoor is its popularity. If you were to be looking at picking up a new rifle in any one of the four, even as a reloader you'd be foolish not to pick the Creedmoor based on the facts that you have pointed out yourself. It's popularity and it's performance.

It does have good marketing behind it, but if it wasn't a better all round cartridge design than the lapua and the 260rem, then the hype would have fizzled by now.

The 6.5 Creedmoor is a short action, the swede isn't.

I find that people are threatened by that which they fear. People like to bash the Creedmoor because they know it's the superior cartridge but have a hard time accepting it. :sHa_sarcasticlol:

Long Live The Creed!!!

Pathfinder76 05-12-2018 10:32 AM

Both 140 VLD’s seated the same length from the case mouth. 260 first. 6.5 CM next.

https://i.imgur.com/juXt7Bw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7a7bNDp.jpg

Maxwell78 05-12-2018 10:34 AM

I shoot the heavy 160's, so the swede is for me.

bubba300 05-12-2018 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sns2 (Post 3784311)
I want a 6.5 Creedmoor as my next rifle.

I have had a hankering to try one of these Bergaras. Where does a guy get one?

Redneck Motorsports(Three Hills) can order them in.

WeatherbyFan65 05-12-2018 12:40 PM

Ive owned several 6.5CM rifles, Kimber Montana, Weatherby Vanguard S2 and a Bergara B14 Hunter and with in your budget pick up the Bergara, Talleys and an used VX3 3-10x40 and your styling.

All 3 were very accurate out of the box, both the Bergara and vanguard would shoot 3/4" groups with factory ammo.

The Kimber shot 1" groups then I had it bedded and the trigger lightened and it went to 1 hole groups to 1/2" consistently al with factory ammo, a little pricy though !

The vanguard is a little heavy for everyday hunting if you walk a lot, for the price point the Bergara I find is one of the nicest out of the box rifles you can buy, well made and accurate and on the Rem 700 footprint so no problem finding aftermarket parts, or look for an used Tikka T3X lite but cost a bit more, but are extremely accurate out of the box.

marky_mark 05-12-2018 02:23 PM

6.5 creedmoor
 
There is too many other options that are far superior than the creedmoor
The 6.5x284 and the 6.5 PRC blow it out of the water.
26 nosler and 6.5x300 wby are a step above those
To me your asking for issues with losing game with the creedmoor especially if your stretching it legs

SakoShooter 05-12-2018 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by marky_mark (Post 3784426)
There is too many other options that are far superior than the creedmoor
The 6.5x284 and the 6.5 PRC blow it out of the water.
26 nosler and 6.5x300 wby are a step above those
To me your asking for issues with losing game with the creedmoor especially if your stretching it legs

Let me get this straight....the 6.5 creed isn't suitable for hunting, and will result in "issues with losing game" as opposed to, well... a trusty 6.5-284?

6.5 creed 140 grs approx. 2700 fps
6.5-284 140 grs approx 2800 fps

Now sure, you can load a 6.5-300wby or 260 nosler or the like, but these are magnum calibres and so overbore that barrel life be prohibitive to use as a target rifle.

Now let me think, wasn't there a popular european chambering back in the day that made the 6.5 calibre a name on deer and moose? 6.5x55 or swede or something? If only we could find a way to push a 140 grain 6.5mm projectile to similar velocities, then we would have a hunting cartridge we could rely on.

I realise that some people think it's cool to be contrarian... but Lord.... that's an awful take.

Salavee 05-12-2018 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxwell78 (Post 3784362)
I shoot the heavy 160's, so the swede is for me.

Me as well . Not only 160s but 143's out of a 24" barrel at 59,000+ psi in a modern Swede aren't slouches either . A nano second longer in bolt throw and a couple of ounces in weight are a pretty good trade off as I see it. Definitely an outstanding 1000 yd target performer if one was inclined .. and a jewel of a hunting cartridge. First place overall when compared to the CM, 6x47 and .260 Rem

I kinda feel sorry for the old Swede .. it gets short changed because of all the old actions floating around. Bad Rap.

Kurt505 05-12-2018 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by marky_mark (Post 3784426)
There is too many other options that are far superior than the creedmoor
The 6.5x284 and the 6.5 PRC blow it out of the water.
26 nosler and 6.5x300 wby are a step above those
To me your asking for issues with losing game with the creedmoor especially if your stretching it legs

Sure there are a ton of different cartridges that will fly farther and hit harder, but the same can be said about all the cartridges you mentioned not much will out preform a 50cal, but it's not necessarily the "best" choice for all people. The Creedmoor is as good for any North American animal as the trusty 308, and probably has a more effective kill range however, where it blows the all the hot rods you mentioned out of the water is in barrel life, recoil, and it's a short action. It's a matter of preference in what you're after.

The Creedmoor is best for my most recent cartridged selection. I chose the 6.5 Creedmoor for these reasons:

Big enough to kill anything I want to hunt out to 600yds.

It is a short action that keeps the mag capacity stretched out for the heavy for caliber, high BC bullets.

Quality reloading brass that can be bought over the counter.

Skyrocketing popularity which will boost an already ample variety of quality factory ammo you can buy over the counter, you already see ammo for it everywhere and it was only developed 11 years ago.

I considered a 260rem, and a 260ai and a 6.5x47 and even a 6.5x284 norma, along with a few in the .284 caliber family but for the reasons above I chose the Creedmoor.

Scottmisfits 05-12-2018 03:51 PM

There has to be something behind it if the US military is looking at dropping the 7.62 NATO round in favor of it.

I’ll be looking at a lighter weight stainless hunting rig soon. It will be on my short list. So is a 308 and a 7-08.


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