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gopher 11-07-2015 05:35 PM

…The Box Says So…
 
Accurate Deadly dependable

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_3566.jpg

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_3567.jpg

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...0/IMG_3576.jpg

What’s not to like?

Robmcleod82 11-07-2015 07:25 PM

What would you estimate the impact velocity to have been?

Bushrat 11-07-2015 07:52 PM

That happens when you use match bullets for hunting, they tend to blow up.

Full Curl Earl 11-07-2015 08:43 PM

Huh
 
Match?
Looks like it worked nicely!

purgatory.sv 11-07-2015 09:01 PM

The photo actually shows a positive result?

If all is true.

Thank you.

Jordan Smith 11-08-2015 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushrat (Post 3025169)
That happens when you use match bullets for hunting, they tend to blow up.

I've got a number of examples similar to this one that say otherwise...

Bull moose from a few weeks ago. 162AM. Penetrated onside humerus, ribs/lungs, found under the hide on the opposite side. The second shot hit ribs/lungs/heart, and exited.

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...pserthsraj.jpg

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3a8lbcrm.jpg

gopher 11-08-2015 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan Smith (Post 3025764)
I've got a number of examples similar to this one that say otherwise...

Bull moose from a few weeks ago. 162AM. Penetrated onside humerus, ribs/lungs, found under the hide on the opposite side. The second shot hit ribs/lungs/heart, and exited.

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...pserthsraj.jpg

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3a8lbcrm.jpg

Killed that moose even with a melted tip?

duceman 11-08-2015 07:09 PM

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haven't put one into freezer fair yet, but this coyote seen better days. hit a back leg at 450 m; caught up to him and put another one in while he was running away at 100m. not much gas money for this one.

Bushrat 11-08-2015 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full Curl Earl (Post 3025205)
Match?
Looks like it worked nicely!

Hey lots of guys use them, Hornady even says they are ok on thin skinned game such as deer. Lots of guys use them think they are great, lots of guys say they blow up and don't penetrate, say they are unpredictable and unreliable on anything bigger than coyotes and deer. People also hunt with sierra matchkings, which sierra say they don't recommend for hunting. Hunt with whatever you want but I would rather hunt with something made to hunt with than something made for shooting paper which can kill game in a pinch but wasn't really designed too.

Bushrat 11-08-2015 08:16 PM

Quote straight out of the Hornady manual:

"A-MAX bullets are generally for match shooting, with jackets drawn to less than .0005" concentricity and given Hornady's Ultra-Low Drag Tip. This bullet is also excellent for hunting thin-skinned game."

Like any bullet use your own disgression. Lots of guys using them at long range shooting where they expand well at low velocity way out there. Just don't be too surprised if they occasionally blow apart at high velocity close range shots and sometimes fail to penetrate well.

southernman 11-08-2015 09:13 PM

I know lots of guys that use the .284 bore, 162 gr a-max for deer in new Zealand, it works very well, at longer range and at reduced speed, but is very unpredictable and erratic above about 2800-2900fps,
I have shot about a dozen deer, and pigs with it myself, but am shooting a 7x57 so even at 50m likely not even at 2800fps,
It is however a very poor choice, for close range at magnum speed,(+3000fps) in that case, you would be better served, with a partion, or bonded bullet.
As with almost everything in life, things work much better, with the correct tools, matched for the job.

Beached Whale 11-08-2015 09:42 PM

Every time I see somebody killing animals with AMAX bullets I smile. I've been hunting with them for a few years and am really impressed with them.

Jordan Smith 11-08-2015 11:33 PM

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...psp92snjkm.jpg

This one is a 3112 fps launch, impact at 40 yards. You're looking at the exit...

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...psfc752b4e.jpg

gopher 11-09-2015 09:04 PM

Port side blinker!

Rman 11-09-2015 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopher (Post 3027369)
Port side blinker!

And drool.
Mustn't forget the drool.

R.

Rman 11-10-2015 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushrat (Post 3027695)
Where's the exit wound, even a ballistic tip or a berger VLD will exit a deers head. That's not much for penetration unless it was a 22-250 or something.......grin :) Pretty unpredictable one goes end for end on a moose and another won't go through a little does head. :scared0018:

Wow.

R.

Robmcleod82 11-10-2015 08:51 AM

Who said it didn't exit?

Bergerboy 11-10-2015 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rman (Post 3027755)
It is his pretend, let him imagine it as he wishes.
Never mind as to if he knows if it exited, or not. Certainly pay no attention to the fact that it is illegal to shoot a deer with a 22-250 in this province. Try to ignore that others have posted that it is a very effective bullet on small and large game. Absolutely ignore that he has zero experience with the bullet in question.

Just pay attention to what was quoted, after the Googler was run, and nothing else...

R.

Everyone, behold the display of an ego so fragile it would give GTR a run for his money! Seems like stew is the new purple Kool-Aid!

Unregistered user 11-10-2015 09:43 AM

A.d.d.

Rman 11-10-2015 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered user (Post 3027795)
A.d.d.

A-max Deficit Disorder?

R.

1Heavyhitr 11-10-2015 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopher (Post 3027369)
Port side blinker!

:sHa_sarcasticlol:

Unregistered user 11-10-2015 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rman (Post 3027811)
A-max Deficit Disorder?

R.

Accurate
Deadly
Dependable

Bushrat 11-10-2015 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robmcleod82 (Post 3027737)
Who said it didn't exit?

Nobody, said didn't see an exit. Did it exit?

Bushrat 11-10-2015 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rman (Post 3027755)
It is his pretend, let him imagine it as he wishes.
Never mind as to if he knows if it exited, or not. Certainly pay no attention to the fact that it is illegal to shoot a deer with a 22-250 in this province. Try to ignore that others have posted that it is a very effective bullet on small and large game. Absolutely ignore that he has zero experience with the bullet in question.

Just pay attention to what was quoted, after the Googler was run, and nothing else...

R.

Have shot thousands of A-maxes in 7mm, .308, .224, .243, .264 more A-Maxes than most of you here have. Have over 500 162 A-maxes sitting on my bench right now along with others I buy them by the thousand lot. Lots of others who have real experience with this bullet shooting all kinds of game with it, only use it for long range with great success and won't use it at close range as it is to unpredictable.

I think most folks here know that .224 cal rifles are not legal for deer hunting in Alberta......duh.

It`s my opinion, Shoot whatever you want, most know there are better hunting bullets than the A-max. Didn't realize the Dinty Moore crowd would get their tutu`s so tangled up with their panties.:sHa_sarcasticlol:

ganderblaster 11-10-2015 12:46 PM

That's s lot of wasted meat in above photos.

fish_e_o 11-10-2015 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganderblaster (Post 3028020)
That's s lot of wasted meat in above photos.

the partition i used this year made more of a mess than any of those unfortunately

Robmcleod82 11-10-2015 12:53 PM

Of course it exited

Rman 11-10-2015 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushrat (Post 3028012)
Have shot thousands of A-maxes in 7mm, .308, .224, .243, .264 more A-Maxes than most of you here have. Have over 500 162 A-maxes sitting on my bench right now along with others I buy them by the thousand lot. Lots of others who have real experience with this bullet shooting all kinds of game with it, only use it for long range with great success and won't use it at close range as it is to unpredictable.

I think most folks here know that .224 cal rifles are not legal for deer hunting in Alberta......duh.

It`s my opinion, Shoot whatever you want, most know there are better hunting bullets than the A-max. Didn't realize the Dinty Moore crowd would get their tutu`s so tangled up with their panties.:sHa_sarcasticlol:

Then why not just say so, without pushing your own agenda? Post up some real experience?
Most folks do know it isn't legal to shoot a deer with a .224, but yet you suggested the deer posted was?
Funny the comment coming from you about crowds, tutu's and panties...:sHa_sarcasticlol:

R.

Bergerboy 11-10-2015 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rman (Post 3027770)
Ahhh.

More man crush, right on cue.
And yet, if you actually read what I wrote, tell me what is wrong?

A wise fella, right here on this forum, said "Most people enjoy this forum to share ideas and to meet with other like minded sportsman, others come to cause trouble with ridicule."

Got any ideas pertaining to the thread to share? Obviously you have the trouble and ridicule part down pat!

Still looking for another hobby?

R.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip

Bushrat 11-10-2015 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rman (Post 3028063)
Then why not just say so, without pushing your own agenda? Post up some real experience?
Most folks do know it isn't legal to shoot a deer with a .224, but yet you suggested the deer posted was?
Funny the comment coming from you about crowds, tutu's and panties...:sHa_sarcasticlol:

R.

Perhaps your reading comprehension needs work. Didn't suggest it was shot with a .224 I said it looked like it was shot with one, I have lived in provinces where it is allowed and have seen a number of deer shot in the head with them that look much like the picture.Before you read more nonsense into what I just said read it again, it does not mean I recommend shooting big game with .224 varmint rifles or taking head shots.

Anyway I will graciously defer my meek experience and meagre knowledge to those vast esteemed books of knowledge like R-man and many others who bless this forum with their vast knowledge of things and facts that just aren't so. I'll demurely sit on the sidelines and watch with awe all the nonsense that some spew here... maybe I'll take my ball and go home, maybe I'll tell my mommy!!........:scared:
Or perhaps I don't give a care, find this amusing and will say whatever I say:sHa_shakeshout: lol:sHa_sarcasticlol:


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