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IronNoggin 07-06-2018 01:52 PM

Garmin Xero™ A1i Bow Sight
 
Interesting Development.
Has me wondering if one of these could be successfully mounted & used on a crossbow.
Emailed them to find out...

https://static.garmin.com/en/product...997d206339.jpg


https://buy.garmin.com/en-CA/CA/p/613654

A little pricey, but that will likely change with their next generation.

Thoughts?

Wondering...
Nog

bobalong 07-06-2018 03:35 PM

Looks like a great unit, a little to pricey for me but should work well.

Kurt505 07-06-2018 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronNoggin (Post 3808055)
Interesting Development.
Has me wondering if one of these could be successfully mounted & used on a crossbow.
Emailed them to find out...

https://static.garmin.com/en/product...997d206339.jpg


https://buy.garmin.com/en-CA/CA/p/613654

A little pricey, but that will likely change with their next generation.

Thoughts?


Wondering...
Nog



My thoughts are, and especially for a coastal hunter, how will it perform in the rain and fog? I know my lieca range finder is junk in the fog and rain.

jcrayford 07-06-2018 07:51 PM

My concern would be the weight.

I carry arrows on my hip to help reduce holding weight out at arms length. I not sure what the weight difference is between the Garmin and my current sight, but I'm sure the Garmin would be heavier.

As far as the ranging abilities in weather, it would be the same as all other lasers and affected as such.

J.

brendan's dad 07-06-2018 10:39 PM

This is the direction most bow sight will be head towards. IQ and Burris both came out with range finder sights this year as well.

There are tons of reviews and discussions on Archery Talk if you want to check out reviews

Kurt505 07-06-2018 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jcrayford (Post 3808225)
My concern would be the weight.

I carry arrows on my hip to help reduce holding weight out at arms length. I not sure what the weight difference is between the Garmin and my current sight, but I'm sure the Garmin would be heavier.

As far as the ranging abilities in weather, it would be the same as all other lasers and affected as such.

J.

Does it have pins without a range?

jcrayford 07-06-2018 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3808325)
Does it have pins without a range?

Hmmmmm.... Not sure, but that would definitely be a nice function to fall back on, no? Would still operate like a fixed pin setup if no range could be achieved.

You should email Garmin and suggest that as a firmware update.... All the Garmin products I have, have firmware that can be updated.

J.

brendan's dad 07-06-2018 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3808325)
Does it have pins without a range?

You can go into a default mode where 5 pins appear on the screen and act like a traditional sight. But those 5 pins would be susceptible to the same concerns you had earlier.

The IQ is a 5 pin sight with an attached range finder

The burris is a vertical bar in a sight housing with 20+ lights that once you range the correct light illuminates for the ranged distance.

Out of all 3 I think I like the burris the most. Also burris has been in the range finding/sight business for awhile now.

Iron Noggin, have you consider the Burris Eliminator on your X-bow? Not sure if it range at short range such as 20 yards, but it might.

IronNoggin 07-07-2018 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3808118)
My thoughts are, and especially for a coastal hunter, how will it perform in the rain and fog? I know my lieca range finder is junk in the fog and rain.

Funny thing - one of my Buddies and I were chatting about just that last night, and he brought this exact issue up. Since we hunt fog, mist, drizzle and rain out here a fair amount of the time, that lets this out of the running for now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan's dad (Post 3808342)
... Iron Noggin, have you consider the Burris Eliminator on your X-bow?

No. Far to big, bulky, and heavy. And at their price point, I'd have to pass.

The 380 Matrix shoots flat enough that close ranging isn't really much of a requirement (there is very little drop between 20 & 30 yards). But I did like the idea of a light sight that had the capabilities.

Guess I'll stick with the Hawke Compact for now...

Thanks fellas...

Cheers,
Nog

Lefty-Canuck 07-08-2018 07:22 AM

Heard the Garmin Sight has a tough go in sub zero temps, if you are a late season hunter it’s a question you will need answered.

LC

West O'5 07-11-2018 08:38 AM

If one has any aspirations of entering their trophy in P&Y. using this type of electronic aiming device would disqualify you......jest sayn.

http://www.pope-young.org/fairchase/default.asp

lastlatvian 07-11-2018 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronNoggin (Post 3808526)
No. Far to big, bulky, and heavy. And at their price point, I'd have to pass.

Nog

I held one the other day, you cannot put that much weight out that far on the sights of a bow and expect it to be accurate. Great idea, needs a ton of weight-saving to be a viable product.

brendan's dad 07-11-2018 11:35 AM

Most target sight are 10 to 11 ounces without the scope housing or lenses. The Garmin sits at 17 ounces, so I can't see it being that much heavier.

lastlatvian 07-11-2018 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan's dad (Post 3810360)
Most target sight are 10 to 11 ounces without the scope housing or lenses. The Garmin sits at 17 ounces, so I can't see it being that much heavier.

It felt like it weight about a 1/3 pound in my hand not mounted to a bow, I am shocked to hear that. Does that weight include batteries and the mounting shaft?

brendan's dad 07-11-2018 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lastlatvian (Post 3810430)
It felt like it weight about a 1/3 pound in my hand not mounted to a bow, I am shocked to hear that. Does that weight include batteries and the mounting shaft?

It is actually less than 17 (IQ is 17 ounces). The Garmin is 14.7 ounces but I am not sure if that is with the batteries installed. But either way 2 AAA batteries weight less than an ounce combined.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-CA/CA/p/613654#specs

lastlatvian 07-11-2018 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan's dad (Post 3810435)
It is actually less than 17 (IQ is 17 ounces). The Garmin is 14.7 ounces but I am not sure if that is with the batteries installed. But either way 2 AAA batteries weight less than an ounce combined.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-CA/CA/p/613654#specs

I was wrong it's almost a pound 0.91875, and amazon's shipping weight is 780 grams or 1.7 pounds. All I know is it felt very heavy for a sight imo.


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