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warbridle 06-23-2015 06:29 PM

New rifle for the Rangers.
 
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/nation...nadian-rangers

rugatika 06-23-2015 06:41 PM

I like it. Looks like a metal 10 round mag? 22" barrel?

I wonder if they'll be available to the public

58thecat 06-23-2015 06:59 PM

Looks like a ruger scout rifle:thinking-006:maybe should have looked in that direction too:thinking-006:

Dewey Cox 06-23-2015 07:03 PM

Looks good.
Just wish they would sell the old enfields. I assume they'll melt them.

CaberTosser 06-23-2015 07:15 PM

If Colt Canada is to produce the barrel, bolt & receiver under licence are they a separate entity from Colt in the US which is undergoing receivership? It would be hard to get those made if the machinery is currently on the auction block.......

st99 06-23-2015 07:18 PM

plastic bolt shroud, I guess they don't know the effect of -50 on plastic :thinking-006:

Unregistered user 06-23-2015 07:58 PM

I'll bet one of those will cost twice as much as a C7 but I guess the gubby doesn't want our first line of defence toting scary army guns.

Mossyoak 06-23-2015 08:54 PM

Sako rifle for Canadian rangers
 
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/nation...nadian-rangers

I'm sure our boys will be glad to have the new gear.

Nice rifle.

Nate_K1500 06-23-2015 08:58 PM

little weird looking for me, but its good that they wont have to use those old rifles anymore!

Scott N 06-23-2015 09:01 PM

It looks like a T-3 to me. Apparently it's being built under license from Sako by Colt Canada.

double gun 06-23-2015 09:01 PM

Looks like a cross between tikka, and rugers scout rifle. They would sell a dump load if they hit the market.

Scotty454 06-23-2015 09:06 PM

Nice.

Probably about time they upgraded from the Lee Enfield No. 4 :)

marxman 06-23-2015 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st99 (Post 2874508)
plastic bolt shroud, I guess they don't know the effect of -50 on plastic :thinking-006:

i bet they do know and you dont

catnthehat 06-23-2015 09:21 PM

Well, at least they didn't decide to saddle them with a danged semi something or other!!
Well protected irons, I could hunt with that puppy!:sHa_shakeshout:
Too much fluff in that pelican , IMO, they could simply have gone with a quality drag bag and be done with it!:thinking-006:
Cat

tikka250 06-23-2015 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott N (Post 2874572)
It looks like a T-3 to me. Apparently it's being built under license from Sako by Colt Canada.

sure appears that way. it looks like they are just making a modified version of the new tikka CTR that just came out this year.
http://www.tikka.fi/rifles/tikka-t3/...tactical-rifle

catnthehat 06-23-2015 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tikka250 (Post 2874597)
sure appears that way. it looks like they are just making a modified version of the new tikka CTR that just came out this year.
http://www.tikka.fi/rifles/tikka-t3/...tactical-rifle

Different stock and barrel, but that's it for sure as far as the action goes.
Cat

220swifty 06-23-2015 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered user (Post 2874540)
I'll bet one of those will cost twice as much as a C7 but I guess the gubby doesn't want our first line of defence toting scary army guns.

You might want to educate yourself more on the operational requirements of the rifle.

rugatika 06-23-2015 09:52 PM

http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/e...ers/index.page

recce43 06-23-2015 09:53 PM

bolt action rifle us more reliable than gas operated weapons in extreme conditions. plus this rifle is to be used for hunting . 308 round

Bolete 06-23-2015 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 2874496)
Looks like a ruger scout rifle:thinking-006:maybe should have looked in that direction too:thinking-006:

They did. Ruger wouldn't release their data to Colt Canada to build them here.

JD848 06-23-2015 10:10 PM

No one good enough in this country to build a gun or maybe there is no maker that can fill that order?sako is a very fine gun maker but it would be nice to make our own stuff.

Dick284 06-23-2015 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD 848 (Post 2874633)
No one good enough in this country to build a gun or maybe there is no maker that can fill that order?sako is a very fine gun maker but it would be nice to make our own stuff.

The design is by Sako/Tikka, production rights are to Colt Canada.
So in essence the rifle is being made in Canada.

JD848 06-23-2015 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick284 (Post 2874640)
The design is by Sako/Tikka, production rights are to Colt Canada.
So in essence the rifle is being made in Canada.

THANKS Right on.

huntingcrazzy 06-23-2015 11:10 PM

I think they are really nice but then again I'm a tika/sako fan.

Unregistered user 06-24-2015 05:18 AM

Artic armies don't carry bolt guns any more, why should the rangers. Armalite was .308 originally and many are sold that way today. Canada could buy SKS rifles at $50 a pop and they would be way ahead as many of the issued rifles are damaged beyond repair due to the harsh usage. Sako? Hah!

airbornedeerhunter 06-24-2015 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered user (Post 2874540)
I'll bet one of those will cost twice as much as a C7 but I guess the gubby doesn't want our first line of defence toting scary army guns.

Never mind doesn't want- they aren't allowed! The C7/C8 family are prohibited weapons in Canada because they are assault rifles and have an automatic station on the selector lever. The Rangers are NOT members of the Canadian Forces. The rifles that they are being given are non-restricted for a reason- so they can take them home with them and wherever they go. Military weaponry are bound by a strict set of storage regulations by the CF. ALL weapons must be locked inside an alarmed, coded vault. Inside the vault the weapons are locked inside steel racks with abloy locks. The bolts have to be locked inside a separate locker behind another abloy lock. The keys for the racks are held either at the duty center or MP shack and those keys are inside another container locked with an abloy lock. Those regs defeat the purpose of having the Rangers with a rifle they can use whenever they want.

Second, 5.56mm is NOT a round that these guys want. The rifle is mainly used for hunting and defence from Polar Bears. The .308 is more than adequate for those purposes. 5.56mm- not so much

airbornedeerhunter 06-24-2015 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered user (Post 2874730)
Artic armies don't carry bolt guns any more, why should the rangers. Armalite was .308 originally and many are sold that way today. Canada could buy SKS rifles at $50 a pop and they would be way ahead as many of the issued rifles are damaged beyond repair due to the harsh usage. Sako? Hah!

The Rangers aren't the Army!! Oh and the trials for these rifles were conducted by professional full time Infantry soldiers with input and participation from the Rangers in Arctic conditions so are you saying you know better than them?

Oh, and every professional army in the world still uses bolt guns! The Rangers mandate is NOT defence! It is presence, nothing more.

airbornedeerhunter 06-24-2015 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st99 (Post 2874508)
plastic bolt shroud, I guess they don't know the effect of -50 on plastic :thinking-006:

I'm sure they do! The rifles was trialed in the arctic by the military with the rangers and is the one selected with input from both groups.

Prairiewolf 06-24-2015 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 58thecat (Post 2874496)
Looks like a ruger scout rifle:thinking-006:maybe should have looked in that direction too:thinking-006:

I thought the same thing - both good looking guns. Like Okotokian said, I thought Colt was in receivership, so not sure how this impacts the order/contract.

Question for the military guys - do these get a scope as well? How are they chosen?

58thecat 06-24-2015 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered user (Post 2874540)
I'll bet one of those will cost twice as much as a C7 but I guess the gubby doesn't want our first line of defence toting scary army guns.

Quote:

Originally Posted by recce43 (Post 2874616)
bolt action rifle us more reliable than gas operated weapons in extreme conditions. plus this rifle is to be used for hunting . 308 round

And for defense against four legged and if need be two legged critters. Very capeable for the application.


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