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coyoteman 09-07-2019 07:51 PM
6.5 creedmoor
 
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Originally Posted by marky_mark (Post 4023447)
What advise did you take?
Lots of gaps in your story here?
Buy a 6.5 creedmoor.

coyoteman 09-07-2019 08:01 PM
6.5 creedmoor
 
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Originally Posted by marky_mark (Post 4023452)
I’ve found some big es from the hornady factory ammo
What’s your load for the eldx’s?
Powder 39.6gr h4350.Hornady cases.cci primer.Of course cases,trimmed and resized to spec.Have not seen any reason to go to max on velocity--accuracy good,deer shot at have so far dropped in there tracks.

marky_mark 09-07-2019 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by coyoteman (Post 4023722)
Buy a 6.5 creedmoor.
I have one
I have had a couple 6.5x284’s (still have 1)
I have had a couple 26 noslers (should have never sold the last one)

Whatever the creedmoor can do
The others will do it better

dave99 09-07-2019 11:00 PM
Tikka 3tx--Field ready
 
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Kapustacrk 09-08-2019 10:20 AM
T3x and 6.5 CM
 
What's more to want, for the money they shoot like some more expensive brands. Money well spent, JMO. Have custom guns that will do as good but much higher $$$$$. Oh can't take it with you. !! LOL

Buckhead 09-08-2019 11:12 AM
At the price point of a T3X there are a lot of choices out there that will do just as well - Howa, CZ, Weatherby, Savage, Bergara, Sauer to name a few.

Kurt505 09-08-2019 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckhead (Post 4023920)
At the price point of a T3X there are a lot of choices out there that will do just as well - Howa, CZ, Weatherby, Savage, Bergara, Sauer to name a few.
I agree, the price of the Tikka has come up considerably over the past 5 years making it score a little lower on the “bang for your buck” scale, but it’s still a great option imo. The things I like about the Tikka are the 70 degree bolt throw, the smooth action of the bolt, the out of the box accuracy, and beleive it or not the cheap plastic stock. I don’t feel bad about banging a Tikka around, strapping it on a quad or lending it out.

Buckhead 09-08-2019 01:14 PM
I’m the same. I have some T3s. IMO there wasn’t much wrong with the T3 as it was. Take off the stock, lower the trigger pull, replace the recoil lug with stainless or titanium, spray some nonexpanding foam into the stock, put on a limbsaver recoil pad. Maybe replace the bolt shroud. I’ve replaced a few and kept a few stock. Only had one crack. And the smallish ejection port is a nonissue. You are not going to be top loading that magazine while it’s in the rifle in any event. For 2 hours time and a few $bucks a T3 was just as good IMO.

coyoteman 09-08-2019 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dave99 (Post 4023636)
I can answer with my load:

143gr ELDX
210M primer
41.0gr H4350
COAL 2.830”

Produces a zippy 2780fps in a KSA 24” inch tube. This slippery load holds 1800fps at 820 yards.

5-shot group results:
ES: 25
SD: 9.6
After multiple 5- shot groups off bench rest, I conclude that accuracy is from 0.5-0.9MOA.

129 Long Range Accubond over Varget produced my lowest ES/SD at 9/3.6, but group size was in the 1.5MOA range. Velocity was 2864fps.

I went for accuracy and velocity over statistics. If I ever shot at extreme long range, I would be more focused on a load with both great accuracy, velocity and low SD/ES.

If you want speed, shoot the LRAccubond over RL17. I got them up to 3061fps! (Disclaimer: start low and work your way up...)

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For target shooters,pushing to the limit may be neccessary.Not the case for hunters.Field ready--To take down animals at ranges were the chance of wounding is limited,I have let animals go that I didnt feel confident of a humane kill.The hornady 143eldx 6.5 creedmoor, at 2600 fps gets the job done.

coyoteman 09-08-2019 08:54 PM
T3x
 
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Originally Posted by Buckhead (Post 4023920)
At the price point of a T3X there are a lot of choices out there that will do just as well - Howa, CZ, Weatherby, Savage, Bergara, Sauer to name a few.
I think in some cases better choices--The t3x a very hvy gun.Not good for all day carry-----

Wrongside 09-09-2019 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by coyoteman (Post 4024164)
I think in some cases better choices--The t3x a very hvy gun.Not good for all day carry-----
You must own the Varmint model, because the Lite comes in lighter than almost all the options listed by Buckhead.

dave99 09-09-2019 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by coyoteman (Post 4024161)
For target shooters,pushing to the limit may be neccessary.Not the case for hunters.Field ready--To take down animals at ranges were the chance of wounding is limited,I have let animals go that I didnt feel confident of a humane kill.The hornady 143eldx 6.5 creedmoor, at 2600 fps gets the job done.


Nice deer coyoteman.

If my rifle were only intended for target, I would probably back off on velocity and focus on gleaning greater accuracy and a tighter ES in velocity. Probably in the 0.4-0.6MOA range rather than the 0.5-0.9MOA that it is currently shooting.

I would certainly not look for higher velocity than the current 2780fps to bang gongs at extended range up to 1000yds.

By your own definition of field ready, as written above, my load is undeniably capable of a humane kill at ranges in which I am confident of a humane kill. As is yours. Not sure what the argument would be here??

I think it is great that you have passed up some long shots. So have most other hunters.




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dave99 09-09-2019 09:05 AM
Tikka 3tx--Field ready
 
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coyoteman 09-09-2019 09:05 AM
Tikka
 
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Originally Posted by Wrongside (Post 4024243)
You must own the Varmint model, because the Lite comes in lighter than almost all the options listed by Buckhead.
For sure the Varmint Model.

coyoteman 09-09-2019 09:18 AM
Forum rules
 
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Originally Posted by Dick284 (Post 4023121)
For an outdoors blogger he writes more like the person who makes the directions for IKEA furniture.......:thinking-006:
You should consul forum rules.you have clearly violated more than one.Many have disappeared,who have chose this route.

coyoteman 09-09-2019 09:26 AM
Ram
 
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Originally Posted by dave99 (Post 4024333)
Thats a fine ram,for sure they dont come easy,the image of the bullet somewhat small,the caliber couldnt be determined.

coyoteman 09-09-2019 09:43 AM
6.5 creedmoor
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marky_mark (Post 4023737)
I have one
I have had a couple 6.5x284’s (still have 1)
I have had a couple 26 noslers (should have never sold the last one)

Whatever the creedmoor can do
The others will do it better
That for sure is true.As a long term hunter,Its not about a better rifle.The rifle is the easy part.The hard part is to determine were the game is,and how to get in ethical range.The consistant takeing of trophy game,comes down to a lot of hard work and observation,persistance,endurace,and every now and then luck.The 6.5 creedmoor is a tool I carry,and use well.

dave99 09-09-2019 09:45 AM
Tikka 3tx--Field ready
 
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Originally Posted by coyoteman (Post 4024342)
Thats a fine ram,for sure they dont come easy,the image of the bullet somewhat small,the caliber couldnt be determined.


My intent was not really to show off the casing. As implied, it is 6.5CM with the load listed a few posts up in the thread.


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Kurt505 09-09-2019 09:47 AM
Wait a minute....... you guys actually kill things with a 6.5 Creedmoor???

dave99 09-09-2019 10:13 AM
Tikka 3tx--Field ready
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 4024351)
Wait a minute....... you guys actually kill things with a 6.5 Creedmoor???


I will not confirm or deny. Lol.

Wait a minute, I guess my last post kinda did.


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Buckhead 09-09-2019 10:58 AM
Oh sure, show us those teaser pictures. Now I will need a new rifle or 2 in 6.5 CM and a new scope and powder and cases and .....
Oh the agony of it all.....:)

catnthehat 09-09-2019 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 4024351)
Wait a minute....... you guys actually kill things with a 6.5 Creedmoor???
I'm going to have to change a couple of things before this 6.5 Creedmoor is ready to hunt! LOL!!
Kills paper and steel really well however! :sHa_sarcasticlol:
Cat
https://i.imgur.com/NM5SpjH.jpg

coyoteman 09-09-2019 11:28 AM
Ram
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave99 (Post 4024350)
My intent was not really to show off the casing. As implied, it is 6.5CM with the load listed a few posts up in the thread.


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Bet he didnt go far,when hit.But you left out the good part,range. and altitude.Worked a number of years in the mountains,and did some modest climbing.Not for everybody,I was sucking hard for air in no time.AS the mountain climbing guys were yawning and waiting for me to catch up. The right combination--Good rifle--Good shooter--Good hunter--Will consistantly bring game home.

coyoteman 09-09-2019 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dave99 (Post 4024350)
My intent was not really to show off the casing. As implied, it is 6.5CM with the load listed a few posts up in the thread.


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Originally Posted by catnthehat (Post 4024393)
I'm going to have to change a couple of things before this 6.5 Creedmoor is ready to hunt! LOL!!
Kills paper and steel really well however! :sHa_sarcasticlol:
Cat
https://i.imgur.com/NM5SpjH.jpg
No NO NO dont change anything--The low recoil 6.5 creedmoor is an ideal range gun.Now all you have to do is buy a light all day carry field gun in 6.5 Creedmoor.Then you have the very best of both worlds.

catnthehat 09-09-2019 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by coyoteman (Post 4024403)
No NO NO dont change anything--The low recoil 6.5 creedmoor is an ideal range gun.Now all you have to do is buy a light all day carry field gun in 6.5 Creedmoor.Then you have the very best of both worlds.
My post was a joke- that is not just a “range rifle” it is a dedicated single shot , iron sighted match rifle !
I would not even bother getting a Creedmoor to hunt with when I already have a excellent hunting rifles in 6.5x55 and 6.5x284.
Okay maybe if I ran into a Ruger no1 or an 1885 in 6.5 Creed but even then it would be iffy:)
C

coyoteman 09-09-2019 11:59 AM
6.5 creedmoor
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 4024351)
Wait a minute....... you guys actually kill things with a 6.5 Creedmoor???
Yes we do--Matter of fact,not long ago while doing some fine tuneing with the 6.5 Creedmoor a gopher came out,at about 60m I slowed him down with the 1st shot,and finished him with the 2nd---only about a foot from the gopher hole.Another notch in that fine weapon.143gr yes boy.

32-40win 09-09-2019 12:16 PM
I thought the 6.5 Creed and those ELDX things were invincible, defeated by needing a second shot on a gopher? Say it isn't so.:scared0018:

coyoteman 09-09-2019 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat (Post 4024410)
My post was a joke- that is not just a “range rifle” it is a dedicated single shot , iron sighted match rifle !
I would not even bother getting a Creedmoor to hunt with when I already have a excellent hunting rifles in 6.5x55 and 6.5x284.
Okay maybe if I ran into a Ruger no1 or an 1885 in 6.5 Creed but even then it would be iffy:)
C
In deed you do,no need to try and improve on perfection---Simo hayha used iron sites--The most deadly sniper in history.

Nyksta 09-09-2019 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by coyoteman (Post 4024436)
In deed you do,no need to try and improve on perfection---Simo hayha used iron sites--The most deadly sniper in history.
Theres a lot of other factors in his story than just his rifle setup.

marky_mark 09-09-2019 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 32-40win (Post 4024424)
I thought the 6.5 Creed and those ELDX things were invincible, defeated by needing a second shot on a gopher? Say it isn't so.:scared0018:
At 60m too


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