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Kurt505 04-22-2017 03:16 PM

Lafarge forcing their drivers to become road hazards
 
In my opinion driving 10km below the posted limit is as dangerous if not more dangerous than 10km over everywhere except residential streets.



http://m.edmontonsun.com/2017/04/21/...es-on-speeders

trophybook 04-22-2017 03:19 PM

I completely agree. Cause traffic back up which results in frustrated drives who may take a chance they wouldn't normally have taken.

Kurt505 04-22-2017 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by trophybook (Post 3523469)
I completely agree. Cause traffic back up which results in frustrated drives who may take a chance they wouldn't normally have taken.

Exactly.

Lefty-Canuck 04-22-2017 04:55 PM

This type of willful obstruction should be ticketed just like willful speeding is.

LC

DiabeticKripple 04-22-2017 05:24 PM

Our company policy is 8 under the limit in a vehicle over 4500kg. No one actually does it.

fishead 04-22-2017 05:31 PM

Trucks should do posted limits in the city and 10-15 below on highways.

Sorry to the guys that drive trucks but I do think lower trucks speeds on the highways is safer for everyone.

Also the keep right when not passing could start to be enforced with these guys seeing as they are Proffesional drivers.

And yes I have a valid class1 licence.

Talking moose 04-22-2017 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fishead (Post 3523580)
Trucks should do posted limits in the city and 10-15 below on highways.

Sorry to the guys that drive trucks but I do think lower trucks speeds on the highways is safer for everyone.

Also the keep right when not passing could start to be enforced with these guys seeing as they are Proffesional drivers.

And yes I have a valid class1 licence.

So now instead of 2 passes on a 100 km stretch of hiway, you are now forcing about 30 passes. Genius.

bb356 04-22-2017 05:41 PM

Hammer down ... a governed truck is a menace and a danger on the highway ...

Salavee 04-22-2017 05:48 PM

Still trying to figger why a concrete truck should be obliged to drive at the maximum posted speed limit. Maybe better if they did 20 over to stay with the flow and keep some of the speed freaks happy? Hats off to Lafarge for being pro-active. Might just save a life or two.

Kurt505 04-22-2017 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Salavee (Post 3523600)
Still trying to figger why a concrete truck should be obliged to drive at the maximum posted speed limit. Maybe better if they did 20 over to stay with the flow and keep some of the speed freaks happy? Hats off to Lafarge for being pro-active. Might just save a life or two.

Or take a life or two.

What's wrong with driving to the conditions of the road like every law abiding citizen should do? Driving the speed limit is the safest speed for most conditions, slowing down for ice, snow, or low visability should be the only exception.

Salavee 04-22-2017 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3523603)
Or take a life or two.

What's wrong with driving to the conditions of the road like every law abiding citizen should do? Driving the speed limit is the safest speed for most conditions, slowing down for ice, snow, or low visability should be the only exception.

Maybe a fully loaded Concrete truck is a condition that Lafarge recognized as being unsafe at maximum speeds, although it applies to a lot of other vehicles and drivers as well. Often we read or hear about drivers clinging to max speeds and better.. "Its the posted speed, so I should be doing it" doesn't always apply.

elkhunter11 04-22-2017 06:16 PM

If people find that the Lafarge trucks are causing traffic issues, they can let their wallets do the talking.

Headdamage 04-22-2017 06:20 PM

I support Lafarge in doing this, it is sensible. In no way is a loaded cement truck able to stop or maneuver like a car.

Salavee 04-22-2017 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 3523621)
If people find that the Lafarge trucks are causing traffic issues, they can let their wallets do the talking.

If 10K (6mph) less than max is going to cause havoc on the roads, the cause won't be Lafarge.

220swifty 04-22-2017 06:22 PM

Are some of you making the assumption that our speed limits weren't set with loaded big rigs in mind?

bb356 04-22-2017 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Headdamage (Post 3523629)
I support Lafarge in doing this, it is sensible. In no way is a loaded cement truck able to stop or maneuver like a car.

a loaded body job with legal weight and properly set up brake's is very maneuverable in traffic ...

catnthehat 04-22-2017 06:35 PM

Lots of highway rigs are governed to 90KPH
Cat

Salavee 04-22-2017 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 220swifty (Post 3523634)
Are some of you making the assumption that our speed limits weren't set with loaded big rigs in mind?

Let's hope they considered that someone might have to make a sudden stop with a loaded cement truck or similar rig travelling at max posted speed behind them. Usually Big Rig drivers are better schooled and keep these types of things in mind.

Salavee 04-22-2017 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bb356 (Post 3523643)
a loaded body job with legal weight and properly set up brake's is very maneuverable in traffic ...

..especially loaded concrete trucks/

elkhunter11 04-22-2017 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salavee (Post 3523631)
If 10K (6mph) less than max is going to cause havoc on the roads, the cause won't be Lafarge.

The consumers still have the right to deal with who they choose, for whatever reason they choose. As for the companies, they are in business to make a profit, and a dwindling profit gets their attention very quickly.

hal53 04-22-2017 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by catnthehat (Post 3523646)
Lots of highway rigs are governed to 90KPH
Cat

It wasn't all that long ago that the law in Alberta for highways was cars 100k and trucks 90k

Lefty-Canuck 04-22-2017 06:43 PM

Did you all read the article? They are wanting to use the large trucks as "pace trucks" which undermines the idea of a maximum posted speed limit. They are playing "psuedo cop" by becoming traffic speed regulation devices....

As long as those trucks stay in the right hand lane then I see no issue....but once they start obstructing the flow of traffic they create dangerous conditions.

LC

Salavee 04-22-2017 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 3523653)
The consumers still have the right to deal with who they choose, for whatever reason they choose. As for the companies, they are in business to make a profit, and a dwindling profit gets their attention very quickly.

Are we going to boycott Lafarge over this already?

^v^Tinda wolf^v^ 04-22-2017 06:47 PM

People start acting like idiots when others don't follow the posted speed, I see this almost every day unfortunately.

elkhunter11 04-22-2017 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Salavee (Post 3523659)
Are we going to boycott Lafarge over this already?


Everyone has that right to make that choice for themselves.

sureshot 04-22-2017 07:16 PM

I think this is a very poor decision by Lafarge. I've been a professional driver for 21 years, and pulled all types of combinations. This makes the trucks a hazard on the road, as now instead of 1 or 2 people trying to pass it will be 10 or 12, which will now lead to more road rage incidents and accidents. It's bad enough now as it is. Just because it's a concrete mixer doesn't make it any less maneuverable through traffic.

sweld 04-22-2017 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Salavee (Post 3523650)
..especially loaded concrete trucks/



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Salavee 04-22-2017 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sureshot (Post 3523686)
I think this is a very poor decision by Lafarge. I've been a professional driver for 21 years, and pulled all types of combinations. This makes the trucks a hazard on the road, as now instead of 1 or 2 people trying to pass it will be 10 or 12, which will now lead to more road rage incidents and accidents. It's bad enough now as it is. Just because it's a concrete mixer doesn't make it any less maneuverable through traffic.

Fair enough, but who is responsible for the "road rage" when these goofs find themselves in traffic conditions that don't meet their expectations and simply cannot or will not adjust accordingly?
Surely not the big rig operators, I hope.

Ken07AOVette 04-22-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ^v^Tinda wolf^v^ (Post 3523662)
People start acting like idiots when others don't follow the posted speed, I see this almost every day unfortunately.

and a hell of a lot worse when they are forced under 120 or 140 or 150 because they are superhero's and above the law. Road rage is getting bad even here.

rem338win 04-22-2017 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt505 (Post 3523464)
In my opinion driving 10km below the posted limit is as dangerous if not more dangerous than 10km over everywhere except residential streets.



http://m.edmontonsun.com/2017/04/21/...es-on-speeders

So, how? A loader mixer isn't easy to maneuver and stop. Going 10 under isn't the end of the world and gives them a significantly lower braking distance.

Many companies have already started this. If the hammers on the road take more risks because the company isn't then I hope they get the Christmas tree behind them and a solid fine.

Pass them on the left and keep going.


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