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huntsolo1 06-27-2019 06:40 AM

Changing broad heads and lighted nock suggestions
 
Hey guys, looking for a little advice...

First, I am considering switching from a mechanical to a fixed broadhead (really liking the ones from Daysix Gear). I am assuming that if the broadhead weight is the same, I don’t really need to change much in my set up...just switch the heads and re-sight my bow....is this correct?

Second, I’m also wanting to go to a lighted nock, any suggestions you guys might have?

Cheers and thanks in advance!

501s 06-28-2019 10:21 AM

My combo is slick trick magnums, 100gn and Nockturnal nocks. Seems to work well with my bowtech. I tried the G5’s and they didn’t fly well for me.

normanrd 06-28-2019 10:31 AM

I like slick tricks with nocturnal lighted nocks too. Tooth of the arrow is also a great choice if you want a 1 piece fixed broadhead. I killed a bull elk last year with one and it worked well. Lots of people have good luck with tooth of the arrow as well as slick tricks.

Jmo

Norm

3blade 06-30-2019 09:39 PM

Re broadheads: as long as the weight is the same, you can interchange heads and test them out. The FOC change from <1/2” broadhead length is minimal. That being said, a lot of those 2 blade with bleeders style heads have planing issues and fly like wet crap when shot from a compound. I tried DRTs and they were off by lot, out of two different perfectly tuned bow/arrow setups. Slick trick mags and g5 strikers work well.

Bottom line is your broadheads should shoot with your field points to at least 60 yards with no wind. Outside of 60 broadheads may drop more from the increased drag, but left/right shouldn’t change.

Nockturnals are great but you will have to re-tune and possibly add weight up front. They definitely change your FOC

West O'5 07-01-2019 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 3blade (Post 3995808)
Re broadheads: as long as the weight is the same, you can interchange heads and test them out. The FOC change from <1/2” broadhead length is minimal. That being said, a lot of those 2 blade with bleeders style heads have planing issues and fly like wet crap when shot from a compound. I tried DRTs and they were off by lot, out of two different perfectly tuned bow/arrow setups. Slick trick mags and g5 strikers work well.

Bottom line is your broadheads should shoot with your field points to at least 60 yards with no wind. Outside of 60 broadheads may drop more from the increased drag, but left/right shouldn’t change.

Nockturnals are great but you will have to re-tune and possibly add weight up front. They definitely change your FOC

I think what you meant to say is “As long as your bow is perfectly in tune you can interchange broadheads of the same weight and test them out.”😉
Mechanical heads tend to be much more forgiving of an out of tune bow and will often fly to the same POI as field points,hence why they are so popular.
Fixed blades are much less forgiving,and even if you can punch 40 yard bullseyes all day with field points with your out of tune bow,fixed heads will amplify any tuning issues and give newbs fits.
If one can’t get Brand X or Brand Y fixed blades to fly straight,they often blame the broadhead,get frustrated,and go back to mech heads,when it’s not the head that is at fault 99% of the time it’s your setup that is out of tune.
Lots of options out there for good quality fixed blades,personally I’ve been shooting G5 Montecs for 12-13(?)years now/3 new bow upgrades, with same hole accuracy as my field points and see no reason to change/why fix what ain’t broken?

3blade 07-01-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by West O'5 (Post 3995873)
I think what you meant to say is “As long as your bow is perfectly in tune you can interchange broadheads of the same weight and test them out.”😉
Mechanical heads tend to be much more forgiving of an out of tune bow and will often fly to the same POI as field points,hence why they are so popular.
Fixed blades are much less forgiving,and even if you can punch 40 yard bullseyes all day with field points with your out of tune bow,fixed heads will amplify any tuning issues and give newbs fits.
If one can’t get Brand X or Brand Y fixed blades to fly straight,they often blame the broadhead,get frustrated,and go back to mech heads,when it’s not the head that is at fault 99% of the time it’s your setup that is out of tune.
Lots of options out there for good quality fixed blades,personally I’ve been shooting G5 Montecs for 12-13(?)years now/3 new bow upgrades, with same hole accuracy as my field points and see no reason to change/why fix what ain’t broken?

Thought that was clear in my post but yeah that is a better way of saying it.

But you have to shoot them to know. If it’s one brand out of 6, that broadhead may simply not work for that setup

There was an article/video some time back where randy ulmer explained why he had changed his stance on aligning blades with fletching (turns out it DOES matter)...long story short the aerodynamic characteristics of the broadhead can change POI even with proper tuning. So those two blade heads are starting from a disadvantage, in addition to the common planing problem at modern compound velocities.

Not to say they won’t work, but I’d only advise spending the money if you already have the right setup for them. Heavy arrow, high FOC, moderate velocity, maybe even go to 4 fletch. they certainly are quiet and penetrate well.

huntsolo1 07-08-2019 08:58 AM

Thanks folks.
 
Been gone for a bit and just checking back in, thanks for insight, cheers.

Passthru 07-27-2019 06:23 AM

I broke a nocturnal nock last year on a -25 day deer hunting. Upon release the nock broke off making it look like a good shot. Got down to check, arrow in the ground and no blood and the inside portion of the nock was left. I’ll be using plain old white Easton x nocks this time around.


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