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fishnguy 10-24-2022 12:57 PM

What kind of rock?
 
Stumbled on this hunting the valley yesterday.

https://i.postimg.cc/Nf6rTdDP/38435-...189-C0-B87.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/7ZXGtbp3/A46-E6...3-C6-D5355.jpg

tirebob 10-24-2022 01:02 PM

Quartz would be my guess...

crazyperch 10-24-2022 01:03 PM

Looks almost like Opal.
If it is, something that big will be worth thousands

fishnguy 10-24-2022 01:23 PM

^ Know nothing about opals. It isn’t that big, about 2 inches long.

I also thought quartz, but all that “blue” colour made me wonder.

crazyperch 10-24-2022 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fishnguy (Post 4571247)
^ Know nothing about opals. It isn’t that big, about 2 inches long.

I also thought quartz, but all that “blue” colour made me wonder.

I wont lie, I know nothing about it as well.
But I was watching Opal hunters the other day......

fishnguy 10-24-2022 01:34 PM

^ Haha. That’ll do it.

tirebob 10-24-2022 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishnguy (Post 4571247)
^ Know nothing about opals. It isn’t that big, about 2 inches long.

I also thought quartz, but all that “blue” colour made me wonder.

Yeah I can see that too... I hope you put it in your pocket either way!

Grizzly Adams1 10-24-2022 01:56 PM

Looks too rough and angular to be your basic glacial erratic. What valley ?

Grizz

EZM 10-24-2022 02:51 PM

That rock looks so out of place sitting right on top of the soil all clean and neat and by itself.

Likely some sort of sasquatch egg is my guess.

calgarychef 10-24-2022 03:16 PM

A prospecting buddy of mine would call that a Leverite. It does look quite blue though doesn’t it?

fishnguy 10-24-2022 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tirebob (Post 4571256)
Yeah I can see that too... I hope you put it in your pocket either way!

Haha. Yes, sir! Lol. In spite if having my pockets full and some almost bursting (I didn’t take the backpack, so water, flashlight, rope, lighter, calls, etc all went into the pockets), I found some space after some short deliberation. Made my 8-year old happy, lol.

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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1 (Post 4571270)
Looks too rough and angular to be your basic glacial erratic. What valley ?

Grizz

That would be Smoky, somewhere midway or so between Peace River and Watino in 522. I’d say about midway from the top of the valley to the bank of the river.

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Originally Posted by EZM (Post 4571281)
That rock looks so out of place sitting right on top of the soil all clean and neat and by itself.

Likely some sort of sasquatch egg is my guess.

In these valleys, there are often rocks sitting out of place. Erosion and mudslides expose quite a bit. Often looks pretty weird, actually. This one you can see has been sitting there for some time:

https://i.postimg.cc/V6qytRc1/84894-...F61-C8-D33.jpg

I’d wager I was the first person to walk there (or anywhere close, really) in a very, very long time.

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Originally Posted by calgarychef (Post 4571289)
A prospecting buddy of mine would call that a Leverite. It does look quite blue though doesn’t it?

Haha. Bet you that’s what it is.

Here are a fe more pics. Today it (maybe?) looks more green than blue, lol. In reality the rock is something between the pics posted above (taken yesterday outside) and the one below (taken today inside the house by the window).

https://i.postimg.cc/wM2SfjvG/160-DA...F9-D478049.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/hvck1dSm/B830-B...866-A07544.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/pXqHkq5L/C1-B82...CF4-BBE5-B.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/pXDg1k9F/091-B3...F0-EAA2-A7.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Pqq9JjSW-/AAE70...66-DB54-D3.jpg

Grizzly Adams1 10-24-2022 04:43 PM

"Bands of chert pebbles are present "

https://weblex.canada.ca/html/000000...053000656.html


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chert#...trified%20wood.

Grizz

Map Maker 10-24-2022 05:56 PM

Check out Dumortierite Quartz

Penner 10-24-2022 07:41 PM

Found a bunch of those panning for gold. It’s called Leaverite.

dewalt18 10-24-2022 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Penner (Post 4571347)
Found a bunch of those panning for gold. It’s called Leaverite.

As in it's not worth anything so leaverite there?

fishnguy 10-24-2022 09:08 PM

^ I am sure that is what it is. Would still be interested in finding out what it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1 (Post 4571316)

Thanks. Googled a bit and it seems like there are quite a few rocks that fall into that category. Interesting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Map Maker (Post 4571336)
Check out Dumortierite Quartz

Will look. Thanks.


I emailed a prof I randomly found at University of Alberta. We will see what he says, if anything.

Geraldsh 10-24-2022 09:09 PM

Looks like jasperite chalcedony, often blue or green or brown or …? A close cousin to quartz.

Penner 10-24-2022 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewalt18 (Post 4571363)
As in it's not worth anything so leaverite there?

Lol yup

kujoseto 10-24-2022 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewalt18 (Post 4571363)
As in it's not worth anything so leaverite there?

Haha good one.

Throw that thing in a tumbler to polish it smooth and glossy

Lefty Bryan 10-25-2022 01:04 AM

Without seeing it in person, the green colour is most likely a chrome mica called Fuchsite


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Grizzly Adams1 10-25-2022 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lefty Bryan (Post 4571427)
Without seeing it in person, the green colour is most likely a chrome mica called Fuchsite


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When you look at a rock, you have to consider the general geology of where you found it and work from there. Exotics don't cut it. :lol:

Grizz

mac1983 10-25-2022 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1 (Post 4571316)



Could originate from the Cardium Formation as well.

https://weblex.canada.ca/html/002000...053002448.html

I have been to where the Cardium and the Badheart Formations outcrop on the banks of the Smokey River where the Badheart and Puskwaskau Rivers join it, and they look like like layers of pit run exposed high up along the riverbank. This is upstream from where the OP found it by 20 or so miles.

When drilling through these formations on the Drilling rigs they would often dull the drill bits due to the extremely hard chert present.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chert

https://www.thoughtco.com/pictures-of-chert-4122739

Hopefully an expert can chime in.

Davey Boy 10-25-2022 09:18 AM

I'm thinkin it's just someone's pet rock that got lost.

bonedogg 10-25-2022 01:25 PM

cleavage plains look pretty poor, too soft a rock me thinks to be quartz. any chance its a soapstone?

fishnguy 10-25-2022 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Boy (Post 4571467)
I'm thinkin it's just someone's pet rock that got lost.

Haha. Definitely not.

fishnguy 10-25-2022 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bonedogg (Post 4571530)
cleavage plains look pretty poor, too soft a rock me thinks to be quartz. any chance its a soapstone?

No, it’s hard, very.

fishnguy 10-25-2022 05:55 PM

The prof from the University of Alberta got back to me earlier today. Here is what he said:

Thanks for your inquiry and also for sending well focussed photographs (we often get fuzzy photos in requests for mineral identification).

The pebble that you found is made up primarily of quartz, which is a fairly standard mineral for pebbles. What's a bit less clear is the origin of the pretty green colour. The most likely explanation is that in addition to quartz, the pebble contains trace amounts of a second mineral, which is a mica mineral known as muscovite. Muscovite is usually colourless but some muscovites can incorporate small amounts of the element chromium, which will give the muscovite that pretty green colour.

Hope that helps and congratulations on the nice find.


It appears the mystery is solved now, lol.

Lefty Bryan 10-25-2022 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams1 (Post 4571444)
When you look at a rock, you have to consider the general geology of where you found it and work from there. Exotics don't cut it. :lol:

Grizz

Thanks for your insight and sarcasm Grizz. I happen to be a P.Geol with 20 years under my belt. You'll see the response from the UofA professor posted by the OP stating it is likely a Chromium rich mica...

Nothing exotic about fuchsite in Canada.

fishnguy 10-25-2022 10:24 PM

^ Haha. I was going to say Tirebob, you and someone else who said quartz win, but forgot.

I was fairly certain it is quartz, but that colour… There is actually something purple or burgundy or something like that that you can clearly see inside, but impossible to take a picture of. Not with phone anyway.

https://i.postimg.cc/d3nk8g4C/837-A7...85-DB962-A.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/763TL5zm/56-B17...-E393-CA29.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/2yCLLCFm/05-F4-...75-E2-F1-D.jpg

Impossible, like I said. It is pretty clear when you look at it with good light though.

Regardless, my 8-year old daughter was happy I picked it up for her “rock collection”, lol.

swift1 10-26-2022 04:46 AM

I have to agree with Lefty.

Here is some info

https://geology.com/minerals/fuchsite.shtml

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