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260 Rem 05-16-2018 01:18 PM

Front Rest
 
Impulse control was deactivated and I bought this Farley Coaxial front rest from a friend. Lots of learning ahead but it should help tighten groups up a tickle. It came with this “sporter” bag, as well as a wide/flat bag for BR stocks. (Yes, total loss of control and I also bought one of his BR stocks.). I am a “sporter” guy so will likely use the BR stock infrequently, but know it will help seeing differences with proper set-up.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a38ea802f1.jpg

darren32 05-16-2018 02:36 PM

WOW, I didn't know you could spend 2k on a rest ... until just now!

6.5 shooter 05-16-2018 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darren32 (Post 3786434)
WOW, I didn't know you could spend 2k on a rest ... until just now!

Welcome to the bench rest world....2 grand is merely the beginning.....

Bushrat 05-16-2018 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darren32 (Post 3786434)
WOW, I didn't know you could spend 2k on a rest ... until just now!

That's just one of the reasons I can't afford to play anymore.

Wait till you see a rail gun.
http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/visalrail02x600.jpg

260 Rem 05-16-2018 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushrat (Post 3786492)
That's just one of the reasons I can't afford to play anymore.
Wait till you see a rail gun.
http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/visalrail02x600.jpg

Haven’t seen him play with it for several years but he has/had a rail gun. When I was test driving the rest, and made a comment about how complicated it was to do a proper set-up...to which his reply was “a rail gun is much worse”.
I got the Farley because it was surplus to his needs as he had upgraded to a SEB.

Bushrat 05-16-2018 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 260 Rem (Post 3786499)
Haven’t seen him play with it for several years but he has/had a rail gun. When I was test driving the rest, and made a comment about how complicated it was to do a proper set-up...to which his reply was “a rail gun is much worse”.
I got the Farley because it was surplus to his needs as he had upgraded to a SEB.

People would be surprised how many rail guns there are around Alberta. Pretty sure I know your friend....

260 Rem 05-16-2018 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushrat (Post 3786522)
People would be surprised how many rail guns there are around Alberta. Pretty sure I know your friend....

Tom

Bushrat 05-16-2018 09:00 PM

Figured it was.

HW223 05-16-2018 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 260 Rem (Post 3786499)
Haven’t seen him play with it for several years but he has/had a rail gun. When I was test driving the rest, and made a comment about how complicated it was to do a proper set-up...to which his reply was “a rail gun is much worse”.
I got the Farley because it was surplus to his needs as he had upgraded to a SEB.

You got the better end of the deal.SEB neo and Farley about the same when set up right. Regular seb not even close. I’ve owned and shot off of both

darren32 05-17-2018 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushrat (Post 3786492)
That's just one of the reasons I can't afford to play anymore.

Wait till you see a rail gun.
http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/visalrail02x600.jpg

Interesting, looks like at some point it ceases to be about shooting ability .... maybe I could be a contender LOL.

Thanks for the link

Bushrat 05-17-2018 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by darren32 (Post 3786670)
Interesting, looks like at some point it ceases to be about shooting ability .... maybe I could be a contender LOL.

Thanks for the link

Anybody could be a contender but its all about shooting ability. As time has passed and bench gun innovation has made the guns they use quite equal in ability to shoot the bullets all into the same hole under perfect conditions. The ability to read winds and environmental conditions then compensate correctly for their effect on a bullets flight and hopefully land 5 of them into what looks like only one bullet struck the target is what separates the men from the boys in this shooting discipline. The difference between winning and losing is often measured in thousandths of an inch difference in group size. Short Range Benchrest competition can be extremely frustrating yet equally rewarding. It takes a special breed of masochist.

bobtodrick 05-17-2018 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darren32 (Post 3786670)
Interesting, looks like at some point it ceases to be about shooting ability .... maybe I could be a contender LOL.

Thanks for the link

I used to think that...all the equipment and the way the guns are set up...BR is easy.
Then I tried a friends setup at the range.
Pretty embarrassing.

darren32 05-17-2018 08:57 AM

Thanks for the info guys. Very neat equipment for sure.

covey ridge 05-17-2018 09:24 AM

This is what I use instead of my cut denim filled with sand. Ordered it on amazon.

https://s31.postimg.cc/ezhc590l7/IMG_0731.jpg

I still use a sock filled with dry beans for a rear bag:)

Ryan.M.Anderson 05-17-2018 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darren32 (Post 3786670)
Interesting, looks like at some point it ceases to be about shooting ability .... maybe I could be a contender LOL.

Thanks for the link

I know this comment is in jest so I am not directing this at you in anyway.

However, this sentiment is repeated in every shooting discipline. Once the gun meets the base level of accuracy (which in my world is .75-1.00 MOA) it all falls down to the shooter.

The groups laid down in the BR world are nuts. The attention to detail in loading and prep are impressive.

Nice front rest!

260 Rem 05-17-2018 09:58 AM

I also purchased one of his “old” BR stocks, which I plan to lean to use ... and then use it to work up loads on barrels that fit my S action Barnards. No doubt it will take some “learning” but I think in the end, will help me better understand how rifles perform ...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...10384641a6.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6ae7721547.jpg

Cow Town Bill 05-17-2018 10:17 AM

Front Rest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 260 Rem (Post 3786399)
Impulse control was deactivated and I bought this Farley Coaxial front rest from a friend. Lots of learning ahead but it should help tighten groups up a tickle. It came with this “sporter” bag, as well as a wide/flat bag for BR stocks. (Yes, total loss of control and I also bought one of his BR stocks.). I am a “sporter” guy so will likely use the BR stock infrequently, but know it will help seeing differences with proper set-up.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a38ea802f1.jpg

Is a joy stick now in common use in benchrest competition? I have an older front rest without the joy stick---got it years ago from a retired competition shooter.

darren32 05-17-2018 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan.M.Anderson (Post 3786719)
I know this comment is in jest so I am not directing this at you in anyway.

Thanks for picking up on that :)

6.5 shooter 05-17-2018 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushrat (Post 3786492)
That's just one of the reasons I can't afford to play anymore.

Wait till you see a rail gun.
http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/visalrail02x600.jpg

Interesting all that money on the gun and he still has an old fixed Weaver scope mounted on top......Cheese don't they know you need a new, shiny....NF, S&B or the Hubel telescope mounted on that thing or you will never hit the target?? :sign0176:

bobtodrick 05-17-2018 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darren32 (Post 3786738)
Thanks for picking up on that :)

Just so you know...I knew your comment was in jest.
Mine wasn't...I actually had the mistaken idea that I'd get behind my friends gun and think I'd pull off some pretty tight groups.
As I said...it was embarrassing.
I don't make fun of anyones skills nowadays, not matter what the discipline who competes with the best equipment.
That was years ago. I'd like to think I'm smarter now, but my kids keep arguing the fact :thinking-006:

260 Rem 05-17-2018 12:48 PM

Cow Town ... Hopefully one of the BR shooters currently active in competition will weigh in on the joystick.
To me, it seems like a good idea as it could reduce the need to move off the stock with follow up shots in each string?

Cow Town Bill 05-17-2018 01:30 PM

Front Rest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 260 Rem (Post 3786800)
Cow Town ... Hopefully one of the BR shooters currently active in competition will weigh in on the joystick.
To me, it seems like a good idea as it could reduce the need to move off the stock with follow up shots in each string?

I suspect that the joystick can be used in BR competition but like you say we need a BR guy to give us the word officially.
From a practical point of view the joystick offers lots of advantages.
Bill

HW223 05-17-2018 01:45 PM

Farley is the most common joystick front rest I see in competition, some Seb Neo’s as well , still a fair number of fixed rests competing by bag squeezers (less and less all the time ) ,,fixed rests and knob turning very few that are competitive,

Bushrat 05-17-2018 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HW223 (Post 3786825)
Farley is the most common joystick front rest I see in competition, some Seb Neo’s as well , still a fair number of fixed rests competing by bag squeezers (less and less all the time ) ,,fixed rests and knob turning very few that are competitive,

Hard to concentrate what with all that bag squeezing and knob turning going on. They really should do that stuff between relays........:scared:

DanOO 05-17-2018 05:50 PM

I believe the joystick rests started in score shooting were moving/aiming at a different bullseye is required.
It adapted well to group shooting as one moves from a lower sighter bull to the upper record bull.
It enables making minor adjustments quickly especially when attempting to run a group and having to use hold off for changing wind conditions.
I was a knob twiddler on Hart, Sinclair, JJ (John Loh) rests, converted a couple of years back and now prefer it to the other rests.

Bushrat 05-17-2018 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter (Post 3786757)
Interesting all that money on the gun and he still has an old fixed Weaver scope mounted on top......Cheese don't they know you need a new, shiny....NF, S&B or the Hubel telescope mounted on that thing or you will never hit the target?? :sign0176:

Picture is probably 15 to 20 years old, rail gun from when those weaver scopes were somewhat popular.

260 Rem 05-17-2018 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bushrat (Post 3786940)
Picture is probably 15 to 20 years old, rail gun from when those weaver scopes were somewhat popular.

No flies on a T-36:)

6.5 shooter 05-17-2018 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 260 Rem (Post 3786950)
No flies on a T-36:)

I think he missed my jest.

Bushrat 05-17-2018 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 260 Rem (Post 3786950)
No flies on a T-36:)

True, I still use one on my bench gun.

Faststeel 05-18-2018 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by covey ridge (Post 3786714)
This is what I use instead of my cut denim filled with sand. Ordered it on amazon.

https://s31.postimg.cc/ezhc590l7/IMG_0731.jpg

I still use a sock filled with dry beans for a rear bag:)


I used this same rest in the field instead of a bipod 2 seasons ago, worked great for me.....fs


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