NRA Chief Speaks Out
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T_H...ature=youtu.be

NRA Chief Wayne LaPierre At Conservative Political Action Conference (Full) | NBC News

Hope this is Ok on this forum. Mods take it down if its too political. It's 38 mins but makes sense. Spread this around to people who are anti gun. Maybe it will make sense to them.

This is pretty impressive, if you're the type that falls for blatant pandering nonsense. The evil European socialists are not hiding in the bushes to get your guns. The NRA is using that as a smokescreen to deflect attention from their increasingly absurd positions.

I briefly considered giving up shooting sports just so I can avoid being associated with this in any way.

What if you are wrong? And how would we know?

Meh
 

Too many people here are trying to make this "American Problem", a Canadian problem. Regardless of what some here think, the sky is not falling in Canada, and the Slippery Slope Theory doesn't apply this time.

Canada has enough problems of it's own. It's best for us to focus there!

Don't you think that if the American anti gun people succeed that Canada will not try and follow to copy their neighbour to the south. It would happen in a heartbeat. They are right in asking why Banks, airlines, jewellery stores, the pres. and white house are all protected by armed guards, BUT schools are not.
Bet these deranged shooters would not try to shoot up a school where there may be someone armed to deter them. Just my opinion, I don't know the answer and don't want to see the answer imposed on all gun owners. Because one of the steps they may try and take, is to confiscate all guns, yes it would be a fight, but they may think that the fight would be worth it in the end game.

I wish we would copy thy neighbour in government at least, then we would have something like trump and not our clown..

[QUOTE=Davey Boy;3737917]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T_H...ature=youtu.be

NRA Chief Wayne LaPierre At Conservative Political Action Conference (Full) | NBC News

Hope this is Ok on this forum. Mods take it down if its too political. It's 38 mins but makes sense. Spread this around to people who are anti gun. Maybe it will make sense to them.[/

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Nothing new here. It is the same old same old that the NRA has been spewing all along. The NRA seems to oppose absolutely everything that has to do with restricting their clients in any way. I thought opposing bump stocks would have been a no brainer but the NRA did what the NRA always does.

This speech set the tone early, and within 40 seconds, and basically ruined any credibility the NRA has.

He started snivelling about the liberal anti's taking this tragedy as an opportunity to bash the NRA so soon after these events ...... YET the NRA itself has a history of doing exactly that following many tragedies in the past - talk about hypocrisy.

Remember the NRA rallies that took place days after other recent tragedies while people mourn the loss of their loved ones?

Yeah - taking the opportunity themselves was OK - but the shoe on the other foot doesn't feel so good does it.

The rest of this empty speech is more of the same BS. and political stroking, posturing and more spin.

Yes, there are some valid points and perspective I might share, but this guys does no favours for me or many other sportsmen/gun owners with his words or actions.

Sorry - this illustrates precisely why I'm not a NRA fan.

Thanks for posting.

A thorough sweep of the bushes should flush out any hiding Europeans. I've got a GSP. Maybe she's good at finding Germans.

Absolutely amazes me how many on this forum are deep down anti gun. Perhaps you would be happier on some other forum.

Here we go again. To have a different opinion labels one as an anti or a liberal:thinking-006:

Please clearly define your definition of "deep down anti gun".

I am seriously interested where I fall according to the definition.

Yep, I am also interested in knowing the official definition of anti gun. I am also interested in the official definition of anti hunting as well.

Warning. This is what will get you a timeout faster than you can say the word. This is an outdoors forum and you are in the General Discussion section. Not everyone has to agree with your view of the world. If you don't like someones view, engage them in a discussion for the purpose of understanding, or move on. Trying to stereotype a law enforcement officer as anti-gun because he doesn't agree with US legislation won't be accepted. Period.

Nra
 

[QUOTE=covey ridge;3738010]The bump stock ban will not solve anything ,you can look up on You Tube how to use a rubber band to accomplish the same thing for a lot less money.
As a NRA member I agree that giving the Liberals a inch and they will try to take a mile.
Personally I believe that the acceptance of the "Ghetto Culture " by todays youth that places no value on human life is more a detriment than the NRA.

Nope. A-OK. Gun control is of course political, but it absolutely is related to outdoor pursuits. Carry on:)

I have many guns I see no need for public to buy bump stocks semi auto rifles with 20 shot or bigger clips (five is enough). I will take Canadian gun laws over the US any day. Retstricted guns in Canada are for gun range only and that’s a good thing although criminals don’t follow this but that why there criminals.
The US has many things they must do to solve the gun violence restricting what weapons that are on gun shelves is a first big step. Restricting what types of guns probably won’t stop the shootings but it might make them less severe.

So just tonight on tv watching Ellen and she brings on 3 survivors from the shooting. Lots of air time and exposure for the planned march on the White House March 14th. The kids get a $50,000 cheque towards there cause. They all said they do not want guns banned but tougher laws. Interesting!

Next is NBC news doing a story on all of the company’s dropping discounts they had for NRA members. The list was long and growing.

I use to hunt but gave it up 20 years ago. I still enjoy the hunting posts and the pics. But - I honestly feel the time has come that change is in the air. Going with the old “gut feeling” on this one.

The hunting community better prepare an organized stance with some allowances for change or it will be gone in a couple of generations. But I do not have any confidence in this happening due to just witnessing the last thread turn into name calling and a pizzing contest.

Throwing my $0.05 at the conversation.

Dodger.

I own a scalpel. Does that make me a doctor? Got a few cars too, maybe I'm an engineer and just didn't realize it.

If I want to run a mini 14 or an AR15 or a Tavor for gophers then why can't I? What makes one a baby killer and the other not?

Rivets don't stop criminals so thats moot. Why can't a farmer or a guy out calling 'totes have a 20 stack in their varmint gun?

It's amazing how logic falls to the way side.

Society needs an overhaul. Our justice systems are broken. We have medical systems that fail people more often than help them. Our social services are ineffective and expensive.

But lordy, best take away things from normal folks that want to have fun. Because criminals and head cases might use them inappropriately. What a minute....guess we need to restrict vehicle types, alcohol, knives, airplanes killed a lot of people in the wrong hands too, on and on and on.....

How about instead we simplify our laws, enforce them thoroughly and when criminals are convicted we actually make a sentence a deterrent. It would cost less, be reasonable and you couldn't be made a criminal just for no damn reason.

The NRA are seen as extremists, and they are, they don't want to give an inch, because the anti gun crowd will ask for a mile. The NRA leans too far one way, just as our classification system and firearms laws have gone too far in the other direction. I personally would like to regulations fall s0mewhero in between, but once the NRA gives some ground, the anti's will see this as weakness, and try for much more. What I really find so disappointing is that we have much more restrictive laws, and yet the courts don't impose harsh sentences on the violators. It seems like in the majority of cases where I read about crimes being committed where firearms are present, the accused have firearms prohibitions. Why even have such strict regulations, if the courts won't hand out meaningful sentences? The Stanley case is a prime example, the occupants of the vehicle had a loaded firearm, even though they were prohibited from owning firearms. As well, they were impaired while in possession of a firearm, which is also an offense.Given how often this kind of thing happens, what value are our firearms regulations? And if the USA is going to treat violators the same way, how will more regulations help them?

So you don't see a need. That means it should be law?

What do you mean by clients.
 

[QUOTE=covey ridge;3738010]There are a ton of average joe’s that belong to the NRA that are members so their rights to own firearms are upheld. I’m sure that you must belong to some kind of organization. Do you consider yourself a member or a client?
If it wasn’t for the NRA they would probably be more restricted than we are. They are serving their members wishes to maintain gun ownership.
And as for the manufacturers they make firearms because there is a large market for them. No one is forcing anyone to buy a firearm.

[QUOTE=BuckCuller;3738207]I do not think that the NRA really cares about the average Joe. Their mission is to buy enough votes so that the manufacturers are never impeded with any regulations that might effect their ability to flood the market with firearms. The rights of average Joe are just a by product of their big pay off.

[QUOTE=covey ridge;3738225]Like every union out there, right?:thinking-006:
With all due respect I think your take on the NRA is a bit flawed
Cat

Classic. Can you use a few more triggered words?

Have you ever actually investigated the worth, expendatures and where revenue for the NRA is generated? I don't agree with some of their stances but they have are a lobby group amongst other things.

American manufactures, wholesalers and retail is more regulated in many ways than we are here. In some ways, far more ignorantly. I doubt you've spent any time investigating this though. I also doubt you'll answer a direct question if history tells us anything.

I must be mistaken.
 

[QUOTE=catnthehat;3738228]I was under the impression that anyone that cherished the ownership of firearms could join the NRA.
Is it only a select few?

[QUOTE=catnthehat;3738228]That may be, but I have not seen anything that has convinced me otherwise.

[QUOTE=BuckCuller;3738241]I thought that as well but I changed my mind.

[QUOTE=covey ridge;3738251]Maybe take a look at the numerous adult shooting programs , hunter trading , civilian shooting programs school visit programs, etc .
They do a lot more than just fight the anti gun lobby .
Cat

[QUOTE=covey ridge;3738252]That is not my quote .
Cat