Climate Change Dump #1
Consensus on AGW is again confirmed, wind and solar use is increasing exponentially, real effects of global warming is happening now, effecting real people, including Donald Trump.
Climate Scientists Virtually Unanimous on Man-Made Global Warming Consensus Study now Peer-Reviewed and Published Quote:
Climate Change Has Officially Engulfed 5 Pacific Islands Quote:
Trump acknowledges climate change — at his golf course Quote:
Scientists, Navy consider future of sonar in warming oceans Quote:
Appearance of crater dubbed ‘the Gateway to the Underworld’ in Siberia is a warning to our warming planet Quote:
North Sea countries mull wind energy strategy Quote:
Renewable energy surges to record levels around the world Quote:
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https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/kahl/www...ature_1993.pdf
"The lack of widespread, significant warming trends leads us to conclude that there is no strong evidence to support model simulations of greenhouse warming over the Arctic Ocean for the period 1950-1990. " Kahl, Charlevoix, et al |
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Glad to see you're back btw. I was kinda missing your climate posts. |
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I don't want another ice age so hopfully were making enough of a difference to avoid one. |
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Amazing. Perhaps the geniuses on this forum may want to explain why the Navy's real issues with sonar due to the oceans warming is not real? |
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I don't think anyone is arguing that the oceans are getting warmer. We all believe in the science of a thermometer.
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I think that the approach above would be the only correct one if Navy consisted of "global worming" alarmists. |
Avb3 I agree with you since EASc is something I am studying in university as my minor. But honestly I don't think some of the people on here will budge with their opinion. Way she goes.
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How long until the Pacific Ocean cycle warms up enough so it's not so chilli to swim in and I have a chance at catching yellowfin or sailfish? If you look throughout time there was always climit change and droughts that moved civilizations all over the place or they disappeared all together. I just hope we warm up enough to hold off the next ice age. On a positive note I got some extra blue recycling bins delivered hovever on a negitive I drive a big truck, have two vehicles when we could get by with one, I drive the crap out of my boat evey chance I get, keep my AC cranked even when I'm not home and love eating fish & beef.
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ok arctic icecap melts what would be the net effect on ocean levels?
Same as a melting ice cube in a glass of water, Remember back to water cycle, water on earth exists in 3 phases, solid liquid and gas..... Ice melts into water, more water in atmosphere as temperature goes up, thus more water vapour (gas) in air (which is clear) meaning less clouds but air with water in it takes more energy to heat, WE LIVE IN A SELF REGULATING SYSTEM.... The amount of hydrogen dioxide on the planet is fixed and finite..... We will have extremes but the extremes self regulate, In dinosaur times North America had a warm inland sea.... then an ice age and now a melting era over past 10,000 years. It is like a pendulum and greatest velocity with a pendulum is when it is in the middle. the planet will self regulate, Everything works on a cycle, Carbon, Oxygen, Water. It is cyclic and the cycle will continue long after our species has went through its cycle.... The world needs a bogeyman, It was Communism, The A-bomb, Nuclear Holocaust, nuclear Winter, petroleum, Depletion, the hole in the ozone, deforestation, terrorism, now it global climate change and like very bogeyman people could find "facts" to support their theory. Science is no longer about discovery but about having a theory and trying to keep it from being disproven so that they maintain funding and it requires media fueling which needs fear as a driver, The fear industry is the worlds biggest industry.... |
Serious question OP, why do you post about climate change on AO?
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Trump Sea wall
Is Mexico going to pay for this one also?
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AVB is there somewhere else you can soapbox your religion?
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It seems absolutely pointless to discuss nuts and bolts of a climate change studies on AO, none of the people here are likely to have nearly enough time invested in the subject to qualify for this task (including students who take this subject as a minor and lobbyists promoting the cause, sorry).
So, basically it all comes to either repeating something one was told and chose to believe, or pure campaigning for a position one supports for some honest or not reason. I am on a fence about man made global warming, but just to offset the bias of OP I will dump some links too. 1. One climatologist point of view, with a spot checks on some data and interpretation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmc5w2I-FCA 2. Physicist, Nobel Laureate attempting to inject some common sense in the discussion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0 3. Journalist on the IPCC practices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pruTqY_JLcg So basically THERE ARE different points of view, but "alarmist's" seems to be way more politicized, and may or may not be correct, but seems to attract some shady approaches and costs humanity a lot of unnecessary money and sadly will cost us a lot more in the future. It's a case of a lost information campaign for "skeptics". |
As I was mowing lawn today I counted 52 chemtrails criss crossing the sky so that by mid afternoon the sky was overcast. Now this obviously trapped the heat like a greenhouse effect and that is why we got up to 30 degrees today. So looks like the gub'ment is making sure we have global warming. Put that in yer pipe an smoke it avb.
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Just the fact that they have been caught so many times fudging data, wanting to jail people with different points of view, blatant hypocrisy of absurd carbon expenditures themselves, trying to silence fellow scientists with dissenting views, failure of any of their model's predictions to come to fruition over the years, etc etc etc. should all be enough to give any rational person a pretty good clue that it's all bunk. Never mind all the people that are heavily invested in this are rolling in money, up to their elbows in crab cakes, and stand to make so much more money AND more importantly gains in power.
AND, anyone that takes the time to actually look into the science of it all with an objective eye will see the emperor has no clothes. Smells like crap, looks like crap, feels like crap, tastes like crap! IT IS CRAP!!! :) |
You know, eugenics was a scientifically proven and accepted principle at one time as well, not that long ago. :D
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Same ol' same ol'.
Most agree that the climate is changing. The disagreement comes from man's contribution and Canada's contribution. There was climate change long before man or the industrial age or the internal combustion chamber and there will be after we are simply a footnote. Canada has a ton of trees converting CO2 and little contribution to green house gases. Add in the margin of error that science is famous for, and the amount of money to be made, and I'm skeptical.:thinking-006: |
What? It's warming? Here, take more of my money!!!
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Is there some sort of forum out there that is better suited for this kind of topic. Some people need to get out of their parents basement and enjoy the outdoors. Don't forget to lose the tinfoil hat too.
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We haven't been around long enough recording temperatures to determine any kind of patern, more often it's called a warmer "trend" and we can prove its normal just as good as people can prove it isn't but fear mongering is a lot more interesting like the news.
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