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chocdogs 06-25-2012 09:26 PM

Looking for Advice on Mud Motors
 
Looking for any advice on mud motors. I am looking at purchasing a short shaft mud motor to hunt a few of the lakes and rivers in southern ab. I want to be able to run in some skinny water and do not want to have more than one motor. Thoughts and or advice.

Cal 06-25-2012 09:51 PM

Deffinatly interested in seeing where this one goes. I feel too young to quit hunting from the canoe just yet but maby when I turn 40 or so and get soft I could see putting a mud motor on somthing.

gatorhunter 06-25-2012 10:27 PM

http://www.godevil.com/

Hope it's okay to post this link. Find the Alberta dealer. Luke's Town Service is the Manitoba dealer.

23 h.p. Vanguard on a 14'6" Jon works real nice.

snortwheez 06-26-2012 12:31 AM

They work GREAT if your gonna be running them in 2 feet or less.
Other then that, there bulky and very slow.
Used one for 2 seasons.

ALBTUFF 06-26-2012 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by snortwheez (Post 1495372)
They work GREAT if your gonna be running them in 2 feet or less.
Other then that, there bulky and very slow.
Used one for 2 seasons.

X2 for some reason they work better in shallow water than deep water. Have had mine for 7-8 years now. Go where ever you want, don't get it stuck tho pain in the arse to get them out. Biggest probelm I've had was most of the lakes I want to go in don't have boat launchs so your dragging it in and dragging it out. If you have any questions just ask.

nof60 06-26-2012 06:46 AM

How are they in rocky conditions?

ALBTUFF 06-26-2012 05:02 PM

Pics
 
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Originally Posted by nof60 (Post 1495481)
How are they in rocky conditions?

Sand and gravel dig that Tiger Prop in and watch the sparks fly lol Big rocks you got to watch for, the skeg is pretty tuff and will deflect you for the most part. I've hit a few boulders that have put a couple dents in the prop but nothing major. I've hit rocks, jumped logs, went over 4' tall beaver dams and than turned around and went back up. I've even jumped a shopping cart cruising the sturgeon river in St. Albert. Very tuff motor!

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...er/TUBS072.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...er/TUBS077.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...Ianpixs018.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...Ianpixs022.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...Ianpixs020.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...er/TUBS076.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/P5200108.jpg

This is out right stuck
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/P5200107.jpg

Cal 06-26-2012 05:48 PM

Nice pics ABTuff. Enjoyed them. I'll have to pick your brain sometime about mud moters and johnboats.

threeforthree 06-26-2012 11:01 PM

I have ran one for about 8 years now on my third motor always going bigger , I can run about 28-MPH GPS and have no trouble in large or small water, they are the 4x4 of motors, I run Mud buddy 4500 Black Death,and a excell F4 boat, one of the best vids is this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlSMCKn8ubo..
some ice breaking
http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...oors/016-2.jpg

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BocJH9PZhec



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEted...eature=related


One of the biggest thing is to have the right boat for the right motor, you can not put this motor on a riited boat it will rip the back end right out with all the torque. if you need I can hook you up with the national rep for Mudbuddy, a good friend of mine. PM me

gatorhunter 06-27-2012 08:06 AM

ALBTUFF. Should get yourself the handle bar to hold on to. So much better to balance yourself AND keep from falling overboard.

http://www.godevil.com/Images/grabbar.jpg

ALBTUFF 06-27-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorhunter (Post 1497181)
ALBTUFF. Should get yourself the handle bar to hold on to. So much better to balance yourself AND keep from falling overboard.

http://www.godevil.com/Images/grabbar.jpg


I have one, I made it 7 or 8 years ago when I got the boat. Never put it on....maybe one day. Have you experienced this falling overboard before?lol

chocdogs 06-27-2012 07:10 PM

Thanks for all of the replies have any of you found a need for the reverse. I see only a couple of manufacturers have this option. I also noticed that most of you guys are running a long shaft from what i can gather. I am assuming this is not as much of issue considering we are not hunting in flooded timber and the manouverability is not as critical. I am getting excited about building my boat.

Cal 06-27-2012 08:13 PM

Are the Pro Drive units that Explorer industries carrys good? They refer to them as a "shallow water outboard" and not a mud motor but they look like a mud motor, is there any difference? From the specs given on them they seem pretty good but I havnt heard to much about them.

ALBTUFF 06-27-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chocdogs (Post 1497997)
Thanks for all of the replies have any of you found a need for the reverse. I see only a couple of manufacturers have this option. I also noticed that most of you guys are running a long shaft from what i can gather. I am assuming this is not as much of issue considering we are not hunting in flooded timber and the manouverability is not as critical. I am getting excited about building my boat.

No mines not a long tail, its an early model of the MudBuddy Hyperdrives. Its also a tall transom model so its 4' long (3' for short transom) compared to the 8' longtail. Thinking next year of going with the 35hp, if cash permits it will be a black death like 343 has.

trouter 06-27-2012 10:03 PM

Keep the pictures and thoughts comming. I recently bought a welded Explorer Industries jon from a member here and am looking at bulding or buying a mud motor. Looks like most of you guys are running short tails, any one run long tails in alberta?


this is the boat im hoping for. It rated for 20hp so I like the looks of the 16hp vanguard or test my luck with the 23.

http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/z...rshaw/boat.jpg


Thanks fo another great thread!!

gatorhunter 06-28-2012 09:40 AM

I wouldn't want reverse cause the driver, boat and passengers would all get covered in loon...., dead fish, whatever that prop chews up.

These things are not like air boats. You need some water under the boat and motor so you have to pick your spots. They go through and over A LOT but not everything!

ALBTUFF...haven't gone swimming or sinking and I'd really like to keep it that way! haha. I just find that the long motor control handle has a mind of its own and then the swing diameter on turns or even hitting a dead head can send the driver overboard in a heartbeat. The Holy.... bar was not invented for nothing.:)


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