Fly Fishing 70’s and 80’s
Seen an interesting post under the fishing forum on fishing back in the day. I was too young to be on the river in the 70’s but I would love to hear some stories of how the Ram or Blackstone fished back then compared to now. Thanks in advance for any stories from back in the day.
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The south Ram provided the cutthroat restocking. There was a plentiful supply as the commercial operators had not yet arrived. Never fished the Blackstone till Cuts were stocked. Don |
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Very interesting, thanks for the reply Don.
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In th3 1970's and 80's Jasper and Banff National Parks were stocking alot of different lakes.
Patricia, Annette, etc, all were a fly fisherman's dream. Now what is left is Maligne which still does not disappoint. Drewski |
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And it looks like Parks is going to do its level best to return our mountains to trout less. Don |
The 'Upper Bow' above Lake Louise can still be a lot of fun. At one time, below Lake Louise and especially below Banff, the Bow was full of wild cutties, rainbows, bullies and even brown trout. The woefully undersized sewage treatment plants in L Louise and Banff released lots of sewage into the Bow, and with these nutrients the aquatic vegetation and insect life was on steroids = lots of fish! Since those sewage plants have been modernized and cleaned up, the Upper Bow has returned to its nutrient poor, glacial, freestone state. Still nice fishing in spots, but not what it was in the 70s & early 80s.
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I really wonder if thinning out trout species like Brookies. Browns and Rainbows is the right decision. We could end up with just Bull trout with no diversity.
What with weather changes and water temperatures getting warmer it seems more logical to have species that can adapt to the reality of what the climate is. It is all very well for parks to live the dream of what was but I believe they lose sight of what is. |
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I intend to fish the Red Deer below the dam for Bulls……… They used to be there! Don |
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My early years on the Bow.Were great runs all to oneselve.Walk down the hills,to fish above Legasy island.Back then ,you still had the awesome insect hatches.The **** plants,were pumping it out[phosfates] were createing weed growth,for the bugs.Now weeds gone ,fish oppurtunities are rare..When shuttle service had 45 take outs on a wednesday That was my last..
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Parks have already killed several lakes in the Lake Louise area of both Brookies and Yellowstones! The Plan is to kill all lakes of all introduced species. I doubt they will restock with WSCT as they will blow their budget on poison plus angling is not a visitor experience Parks is fond of nor wants to continue.
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I started fly fishing in Alberta (after moving from BC) in the early '70s. Seldom would see anyone on our rivers or streams. Huge hatches that were so big that some days you had to keep your mouth shut or automatic lunch. Only one fly shop in town and very little interest in the hobby. In those days we would catch the odd Brook trout and Cuttie in the Bow on a regular basis. The dry fly fishing was often stellar with big Drakes and other Stonefly species that are now seldom seen.
Read a report the other day in Scientific American that first evidence that soft-membraned fish eggs, eaten and pooped out by birds, can still hatch into viable young. So it may not be so much bucket brigades as Quackers. Wonder if this will make the "cleansing" of lakes a questionable step. |
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Lorne, Where these reports fall on their face is timing. If fish eggs were so easily “bird ****”, one has to wonder why they only came by this trait in the past 40 years. What happened in the past 5,000 years? Don |
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So in Banff, Yoho & Kootenay, you are permitted to keep only Lake Trout from Minnewanka - which is a native species! All Bow River fish, including non-native Brown, Brook, Lake and Rainbow trout, are 0 possession. It doesn't make sense. In Jasper National Park, you can keep all species, except both whitefish from Lac Beauvert. Waterton Lakes N.P. has some further restrictions. |
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Where are you finding your info?
Thumper is correct... Zero possession of all species in BNP, KNP, YNP (with the exception noted of Lake Minnewanka). My wife and I were involved in an Brook Trout eradication study within the Corral Creek Drainage & Hidden Lake a number of years ago. We had special permission to keep or donate to the raptor recovery centre. All fish caught whether 2" or 12" had to be killed. They also had gill nets set up in Hidden. They poisoned Hidden and the creek the following year. Helen was poisoned 2 years ago (after 2 years of Gill nets) and Katherine & Isabella Lakes this past summer. Not sure what the plan is for the rest, but I'm sure that info is online somewhere... Quote:
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The idea of bird distribution of fish eggs is SO WEAK.
How could there be thousands of lakes that are barren of fish after thousands of years with birds flying around. Yet, wherever people have access with their fishing rods, we see fish showing up (especially perch, and now Prussian carp). Intentional release of Prussian carp into an irrigation ditch starts it all, and then they distribute by water flow. After that the carp got moved by car. Funny how those "birds" knew to fly by all the other water bodies to get to Blood Indian |
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I have seen folks fishing in storm retention ponds....somehow they know there is fish there now
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That really is ludicrous to have zero limit on past stocked trout....WTF? |
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The whole Parks "back to nature" approach is a gong show. Do you think they will tear down Chateau Lake Louise?...Banff springs?...How about those nice golf courses? Reduce Brewster's ( or whatever they are called now) impact at Maligne? Ice Fields? etc How about replacing some of those hwy and railways culverts to allow natural fish passage? I do think they are working towards a total (in their mind) non consumptive approach...ie...eventually fishing will not be allowed. |
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In areas without access or limited access when we did fisheries work along the Athabasca, we would find many lakes without perch that could support them and very near lakes with perch. So 13000 years of birds and perch didn’t spread everywhere. People come and they move everywhere. Perch eggs are also nasty. Can’t find anything that targets them. They have a nasty tasting gelatinous coating that sticks to the weeds. Read this. https://thefisheriesblog.com/2017/02...ch-egg-skeins/ The study mentioned about birds eating eggs and viable where force fed carp eggs… and that’s not something that happens. If you force feed people… you don’t digest well either. Nope… it’s people. I know who did it to Midnapore and Sundance. It was two teen boys coming from their summer at their lake property. A bucket for each lake. The prussians moved after the guys farm pond overflowed in the floods. They can move up a trickle of water. People also move them around cause they culturally like them, feel it’s good luck, are vandals or just plain don’t know the damage they have done. |
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I fish storm retention ponds. I was walking in a park with my wife 15 years ago when I saw a fish rise. Talked to the government bio for the area, he told me the fish are originally from the Bow.... it only takes 2 I won't talk more about it on a public forum. |
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As stated earlier, Katherine, etc. all have been killed as of last summer!
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I'm sorry when you wrote Coral Creek and Hidden Lake I thought you were referring to the lake neat Landslide, not the one near Lake Louise, my apologies.
It looks like Katherine and Helen lakes will be many years before they are worth trying to fish. |
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