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Pathfinder76 07-01-2020 12:26 PM

Scenars for hunting
 
Has anyone used these for game? I’ve been shooting them in a 6.5 lately and they are harder on AR 500 steel than any bullet I have ever used. They leave a mark. :-)

BigJon 07-01-2020 01:00 PM

I’ve killed elk, bear and deer with the 155 from a .30-06 and the only hesitation I would have is on steeply angled shots on larger animals if the impact velocity will be high.

catnthehat 07-01-2020 01:08 PM

I keep my Scenars , Bergers and Match Kings on the range and use bullets designed for hunting to kill my big game animals , I know lots of people who use match Bullets for hunting.

Cat

southernman 07-01-2020 01:37 PM

I shot a dozen or so goats with them, in my .260, 136gr I think, only ammo i had in the vehicle, after a deer stalkers target shoot,
I would use the word unpredictable, one would pencil straight threw, next animal shot, blow half the far shoulder off,

southernman 07-01-2020 01:46 PM

Just went and looked, no 136 ge so either its 123 or 139gr Lapua scenars, pretty sure i would have had 123gr, as my .260 has a small mag box, (Kimber) and my main hunting bullet is the 125gr partion,

Pathfinder76 07-01-2020 01:55 PM

I believe they would be unpredictable. I’m shooting the 123’s as well and by all indications they are a hard bullet.

kujoseto 07-02-2020 04:57 PM

Never tried it.
Anything I’ve read is exactly as described here = unpredictable.
Explode, or “works like a Berger”, or pencil through (which all the might be descriptive of “work like a Berger” lol)

For that reason I steered clear.
It seems there’s a bit of a cult following using the 155 (?) scenar in 308 for hunting at all sorts of ranges but I’m not about to try it

pikergolf 07-03-2020 06:15 AM

I used them for coyotes in a .223. Everyone I killed was a pencil hole in and out.

Wrongside 07-04-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 4196147)
Has anyone used these for game? I’ve been shooting them in a 6.5 lately and they are harder on AR 500 steel than any bullet I have ever used. They leave a mark. :-)

A group of guys in Montana- one in particular, who I’m sure you’re familiar with ;) - have piled up hundreds of animals with the Scenars. I have a box of 139s here to try eventually.

AB2506 07-06-2020 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Wrongside (Post 4197414)
A group of guys in Montana- one in particular, who I’m sure you’re familiar with ;) - have piled up hundreds of animals with the Scenars. I have a box of 139s here to try eventually.

You can find a cult that wants to believe just about anything. I believe I know of the guy you are hinting at. He and his followers go out of their way to prove their point.

Why even try a target bullet when there are so many purpose built hunting bullets that are both accurate AND boringly reliable?

Wrongside 07-06-2020 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AB2506 (Post 4198191)
You can find a cult that wants to believe just about anything. I believe I know of the guy you are hinting at. He and his followers go out of their way to prove their point.

Why even try a target bullet when there are so many purpose built hunting bullets that are both accurate AND boringly reliable?

Is there a certain number of successful, clean harvests that would change your opinion? 100 head? 200, or more? Seems like the data would either support their case at some point, or do they just remain 'cult members'?

Guy's projectile selection parameters and requirements vary. That's why.

Pathfinder76 07-06-2020 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AB2506 (Post 4198191)
You can find a cult that wants to believe just about anything. I believe I know of the guy you are hinting at. He and his followers go out of their way to prove their point.

Why even try a target bullet when there are so many purpose built hunting bullets that are both accurate AND boringly reliable?

You have no idea who he is talking about and that does not describe him at all.

RightWinger 08-15-2020 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by catnthehat (Post 4196185)
I keep my Scenars , Bergers and Match Kings on the range and use bullets designed for hunting to kill my big game animals , I know lots of people who use match Bullets for hunting.

Cat

Really?
Handloads? Ive never saw someone do that before. Most of my friends dont reload so. If I saw one of my friends using match bullets, Id totally call him out.
Ive always used Sierra MatchKings on the range and Game king to hunt
With my newest it prefers Hornady ELDM on the range and ELDX to hunt.
Kinda unethical to use match bullets IMHO

Pathfinder76 08-15-2020 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RightWinger (Post 4219196)
Really?
Handloads? Ive never saw someone do that before. Most of my friends dont reload so. If I saw one of my friends using match bullets, Id totally call him out.
Ive always used Sierra MatchKings on the range and Game king to hunt
With my newest it prefers Hornady ELDM on the range and ELDX to hunt.
Kinda unethical to use match bullets IMHO

Tomato Towmawtow.

6.5 shooter 08-16-2020 12:05 AM

You don't use Ford parts to fix a Chevy?

So why would you use a target bullets on game?

Moosetalker 08-17-2020 03:53 PM

Match bullets are designed to resist deformation and maximize accuracy

Hunting bullets are designed to deform and maximize shock transference.

Now apply common sense and personal ethics to the above and decide which kind of projectile to use for what you intend to do with it!

Lefty-Canuck 08-17-2020 05:36 PM

I know A-max bullets work well in a .22-250 on coyotes, same thing right? ;)

LC


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