Muir Lake
 

I was out on Muir lake with my son on September 11 and the water was so murky you couldn't even see a few inches down. I have been fishing it for over 15 years and was out earlier in the year with great visibility.
Never got a bite which wasn't surprising .

My question is it fall turnover already? Just seemed early to me

Thanks

We live out near Muir. I heard that heat wave really hit that lake had and there were many that didn't make it.

don't think so
 

A lake I usually fish up north turns over around the middle of October, I would think we're still a few weeks away from turnover. Thick algae was prolly the cause of poor vis, not turnover.

As Howard has said, I also heard Muir suffered at least 'partial' summerkill

I'm not sure it's turnover or not. There was a thread about this lake last year in the fall. I had fished it three weeks in a row and turnover couldn't possibly last that long. Responses were that there seem to be other factors at play here.

I also notice earlier in the year is not as bad. In the fall, sometimes only inches.

Appreciate the replies, I didn't even think of Algae.

That was a smoking hot summer, I stayed away.

Did catch an honest 22 inch Brown in June, what an absolute tank!

Shame that lakes not 15 feet deeper

turnover?
 

Hi. What does turnover refer too?

Here's what Brian Chan explanation of turn over is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLTMuQo4h-4

muir update
 

I went out three evenings last week. lots of surface activity . not jumping but creating swols . see an occasional dorsal fin.

not a single bite on my mepps spinner , or anything else I tossed out there. Tried various speeds and various depths. ( I dont have fly fishing gear )

#skunked@muir

Go to a fly fishing store.

Buy balanced leeches size 10, 8, 6.

Black. I like a little tail sparkle.

Tungsten bead

Use 10-12 pound fluorocarbon.

Buy a bobber. Hang the fly 2-12 feet below the bobber. Cast and don’t feel in…just keep line tight with the occasional twitch.

Alternatively… pick up some leech steamers. Troll slow then go slower. Very slow. Twitch a little. If fish are on the surface…don’t use split shot or weighted hooks. If you can’t see movement use a weighted fly to start. Then add a split shot until you find the fish are start catching weeds… then reduce weight or speed up trolling.

Fish where the fish are rolling. If you see them at the surface… start with 2 feet below the bobber.

Oh ya and when it comes to bobbers. Use the smallest one you can. These people casting beach balls is ridiculous. They can scare fish and you can see the bite

Bites will look like your bobber wiggling to going under. Best to set the hook on any “different” bobber movement.

Don’t be shy. You can always cast again.

My $0.02.

All fantastic tips, thanks for sharing.

Also don't be afraid to go small, heavily pressured waters i tie tiny leeches with beads from Michaels and a maribou tail on a size 10 - 16 hook