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stob 01-19-2020 09:34 PM

222 input
 
I have a 1976 222 rem 700bdl heavy barrel varmint that shoot 50gr bullets just under .5 with nothing done to the rifle. What would you do??? I am thinking bedding and free float and a better trigger... possibly 2 stage?

catnthehat 01-19-2020 09:46 PM

Don't mess with it!:thinking-006:
Cat

Homesteader 01-19-2020 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stob (Post 4096186)
I have a 1976 222 rem 700bdl heavy barrel varmint that shoot 50gr bullets just under .5 with nothing done to the rifle. What would you do??? I am thinking bedding and free float and a better trigger... possibly 2 stage?

What’s to change? :)

I wouldn’t dick with anything other then maybe trigger clean up. Save your money for new scope or ammo components. Maybe a nice bipod or set of bags.

tikka250 01-19-2020 09:58 PM

if you dont like the trigger then change that but besides that if it shoots good dont mess with it! save the money for better optics and more ammo :sHa_shakeshout:

duceman 01-20-2020 07:34 AM

guess it all depends where you hope to go with it.

1/2" with a duce is fairly normal, but the 'tenths' smaller after that come at a cost.

bedding is never a bad thing. the factory trigger is fairly easily adjusted to mid single digits.

i've seen benefits from a crown job.

a quality rest and rear bags are good for repeatable groups.

optics are probably gonna show you more results than some of the tinkering.

sierra 52gr bullets seem to get along very well with the duce, as does n133, and trued lapua brass.

wind flags and practice are the final additions to obtain many small repeatable groups................

or just send where old .222's go to die; my house; and get a 223 like the rest of the world:thinking-006::bad_boys_20:

Flight01 01-20-2020 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tikka250 (Post 4096195)
if you dont like the trigger then change that but besides that if it shoots good dont mess with it! save the money for better optics and more ammo :sHa_shakeshout:

I’d second this. If you feel you need to change something just change the trigger. But with .5 groups I wouldn’t touch a thing.

stob 01-20-2020 07:48 AM

Thank You All ... I am down that rat hole chasing the smallest group ... then I usually sell and find a new challenge, but I think not with this one... it out shoots an Annie I tricked out and matches a 788 I once dressed out. Anyways, these groups were with a 3 x 9 leupy, I have a 4.5 x 14 and a 6.5 x 20LR both in fine duplex ... the trigger is crisp with no creep but goes off like it is industrial ... I always liked double set triggers... any recommendations for after market?

DLab 01-20-2020 08:18 AM

Don't know about sourcing a double set trigger,but Timney and Jard make a single set for the 700.Trigger Tech was supposed to release one last year,they displayed it at SHOT Show,maybe this year production.

MPKoot 01-20-2020 03:35 PM

I am shooting a older Savage 340 in 222 rem and my goal is to get down to .5" five shot groupings. If I had your rifle I think I would do the trigger work first and see what happens. Unfortunately for me the Savage 340 has a very heavy trigger and according to what I read online there is not much to be done about that. Good luck with your project.

6.5 shooter 01-21-2020 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by catnthehat (Post 4096189)
don't mess with it!:thinking-006:
Cat

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waldedw 01-22-2020 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by stob (Post 4096186)
I have a 1976 222 rem 700bdl heavy barrel varmint that shoot 50gr bullets just under .5 with nothing done to the rifle. What would you do??? I am thinking bedding and free float and a better trigger... possibly 2 stage?

Actually what I would do is load up on ammo and keep shooting it, " if it ain't broke don't try to fix it "

pa_of_6 01-23-2020 09:22 AM

Most times the biggest change that can be done to decrease the grouping is to change the guy pulling the trigger!!!!!
Just a thought!


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dgl1948 01-23-2020 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pa_of_6 (Post 4097998)
Most times the biggest change that can be done to decrease the grouping is to change the guy pulling the trigger!!!!!
Just a thought!


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glen moa 01-23-2020 11:07 AM

Odds are that would make the group bigger

6.5 shooter 01-23-2020 03:01 PM

File the words Remington off the receiver and engrave Anshultz...that should give you the added accuracy you desire....:sHa_sarcasticlol:...why mess with it Unless your willing to spend big coin for small..gains.

Faststeel 01-26-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stob (Post 4096186)
I have a 1976 222 rem 700bdl heavy barrel varmint that shoot 50gr bullets just under .5 with nothing done to the rifle. What would you do??? I am thinking bedding and free float and a better trigger... possibly 2 stage?

For me, I'd be inclined to try some different loads before making changes to the rifle. My 222's one a steyr loves reloader 7 with 40gr bullet. My Kimber loved 50 gr with 322, and my LSA55 loves 55gr with Win 748 powder. None with lapua brass.....FS

Bergerboy 01-26-2020 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stob (Post 4096186)
I have a 1976 222 rem 700bdl heavy barrel varmint that shoot 50gr bullets just under .5 with nothing done to the rifle. What would you do??? I am thinking bedding and free float and a better trigger... possibly 2 stage?

What you have there is a terrible rifle. I suggest you sell it...to me.:)

stob 09-25-2020 03:45 PM

222 input - now 4 sale
 
up for sale

scope is a 6.5 x 20 x 40 vx3 fine cross hair.. I tried multiple powders and have groups in the .2 and 3's for 5 shots... i can txt a pic of the load sheet... 40/50/55 gr

gun is 900
scope is same(900) as bnib minus the 50 shots on this rifle
Redding premium fl die set plus lee collet die and crimp die - 200
350 bnib nosler 222 brass same lot = plus 50 1x fired from the same lot -275

Pioneer2 09-25-2020 05:42 PM

had one as well
 
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Originally Posted by MPKoot (Post 4096562)
I am shooting a older Savage 340 in 222 rem and my goal is to get down to .5" five shot groupings. If I had your rifle I think I would do the trigger work first and see what happens. Unfortunately for me the Savage 340 has a very heavy trigger and according to what I read online there is not much to be done about that. Good luck with your project.

I bought one for my dad in Ontario to hunt deer with[it is legal there] as he is recoil shy.24gr of win 748/55gr win bulk or old Hornady with cannelure in win brass.A dozen big bodied WT's and 3 black bears one shot per customer.Most shots are from the muzzle to 150 yards there apple orchards and small fields.Most were bangflops or the 30 yard dash and drop.None lost.He not longer hunts and is dealing with cancer.

Kapustacrk 09-26-2020 02:03 PM

222 rem.
 
well i just went back and bought another 222 rem. in a Tikka 55 from tradex, it's a one holer with proper loads that I had recorded for my Sako A1. shot it for 25 yrs, on paper, gophers, coyotes, magpies, u name it. !! A great classic round that Mike Walker loved. !! Depending on your shooting needs, its a GREAT old CLASSIC. Like many of our super duper new cartridges, don't prove to be overly more effective than what was developed in the 50's and 60's. JMO old school technology. I had thought of rechambering to 223 rem. but it's your dime, and Trigger time and careful reloading do pay off. !! KC. (IF it an't broke don't fix it) Like Duceman said, send it to his bone yard. !!???

Jayhad 09-26-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MPKoot (Post 4096562)
I am shooting a older Savage 340 in 222 rem and my goal is to get down to .5" five shot groupings. If I had your rifle I think I would do the trigger work first and see what happens. Unfortunately for me the Savage 340 has a very heavy trigger and according to what I read online there is not much to be done about that. Good luck with your project.

I have one as well, the scope mount leaves a little to be desired but it is a very good shooter for such a poorly secured action

Olive skate 10-21-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter (Post 4097320)
this

Agreed!!


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