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Getting Scammed on Gunpost

Hi guys,

I made an account here after getting scammed on gunpost and I found an identical ad in the buysell on this forum.

Im not sure if the guy on here just had his ad copied onto gunpost by the scammer or what so if someone has experience with the poster here that could clear it up.

This is the ad that was copied on gunpost word for word with the 1st two photos.

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=357583

the scammer had also posted this ad

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=357584

I have PMed Sea Shepherd on here with no response. Many emails to the address listed on gunpost twicearns12@gmail.com. Maybe if you know Sea Shepherd could you check too see if hes not frozen in his apartment.

Anyway ill be shipped COD from now on.

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Originally Posted by dantes inferno (Post 3934693)

Anyway ill be shipped COD from now on.

EMT before shipping is how I operate, I have never been jammed with this step.

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Originally Posted by Jayhad (Post 3934706)

EMT before shipping is how I operate, I have never been jammed with this step.

I know, same thing here until last week. Bummer.

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Originally Posted by Jayhad (Post 3934706)

EMT before shipping is how I operate, I have never been jammed with this step.

Yup that works if your selling. If buying you are banking on the seller shipping the item after you have sent the funds.

How did the guy get three positives on his feedback going back to 2012. Very disturbing.

Scammer probably copied the add from here.

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Originally Posted by dantes inferno (Post 3934693)

I texted Mike (Sea Shepherd) we shall see if he responds. I’ve dealt with him before and never had any issues.

I would ask for a scan of his firearms licence too

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Originally Posted by Coiloil37 (Post 3934758)

I texted Mike (Sea Shepherd) we shall see if he responds. I’ve dealt with him before and never had any issues.

Hey Thanks. He listed quite a few other firearms too me our email exchange and he asked me to send him other prospective buyers. This peeked my anxiety a little but the exhange happened after I EMT'd him.

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Originally Posted by EMAIL

Jake Gowans
AttachmentsFeb 8, 2019, 10:54 AM (13 days ago)
Great! Please Ship the rifle too: Jacob Gowans xxxx My PAL is xxxx What is the email address I should send $600 to

The Vince
Feb 8, 2019, 11:10 AM (13 days ago)
Ok deal, send interac emt to this email weasturh@aol.com and send me password once done i will ship via canadapost with tracking number and insurance

Jake Gowans
Feb 8, 2019, 11:57 AM (13 days ago)
Done. EMT sent. The answer is xxxx Sent from my iPhone

The Vince
Feb 8, 2019, 12:12 PM (13 days ago)
ok i will let you know when payment comes in

The Vince
Feb 9, 2019, 12:44 AM (12 days ago)
Hi Jake Payment received, Here are just few list of my inventory, let me know if you might be interested or know of anyone that might be interested so i can provide pictures
i can give you a discount

Remington 700 police -$700
Benelli Nova pump 12 gauge $300
Remington 700 VTR 22-250- $450
Browning A-Bolt Medallion 270wsm- $800
Weatherby 300 Magnum MARK V 1980
Remington 700 BDL- $500
Remington 700 CDL 30-06- $500
Weatherby Vanguard Deluxe 300 Win Mag- $500
REMINGTON 3200 O/U 12 GAUGE shotgun- $1000
Tikka T3 338 Federal- $350
Norinco 1911 Police 45- $350
Benelli M2 Field 12 gauge shotgun $700
Benelli Sport II 12ga. semi-auto Shotgun- $700
Savage Model 12 .308- $400
Winchester Model 100 in 308- $450
Smith and Wesson 1911 5" blued model.45acp- $550
Browning A Bolt Stainless Stalker 7mm Rem Mag- $550
Sig Sauer 1911-22 - $300
Smith & Wesson Model 28- $350
Les baer preimer ii 1911, .45acp- $900
Springfield GI .45 1911- $400
Ruger SP 101 .22 Cal Revolver - $400
Smith & Wesson Model 64-5- $250
Ruger Single Six Hunter- $400
Kel Tec SU16 - $250
Smith & Wesson 617 22LR Revolver - $400
Taurus Tracker .357 magnum 7 shot revolver - $250
Smith and Wesson 629-1 44mag- $550
Ruger New Vaquero 357 mag revolver- $350
Beretta 96 Vertec- $400
Glock 17 gen 4 -$400
Remington R1 - $300
CZ Shadoq- $450
glock 17 gen 4- $400

Jake Gowans
Feb 9, 2019, 8:17 AM (12 days ago)
Wow there’s some good deals in there. I don’t need anything else, but I will forward your list. Fire me the tracking number when you get a chance thanks. Jake.

The Vince
Feb 9, 2019, 8:25 AM (12 days ago)

Ok great. i will ship out by Monday or Tuesday and if i could get a buyer from you i will give you a Remington R1 handgun for free. Pls hit me up with people that will need some firearms

Jake Gowans
Feb 9, 2019, 9:03 AM (12 days ago)
What’s the circumstances, just clearing house? Sent from my iPhone

The Vince
Feb 9, 2019, 9:06 AM (12 days ago)
i cant hunt or go to the range anymore, I have back surgery and developed osteoarthritis in my knees.

Jake Gowans
Feb 13, 2019, 1:24 PM (8 days ago)
Hey man, any chance you can send me the tracking number. I do have a buddy might be interested in some more guns. He’s gotta free up a little cash. Thanks,

Jake Gowans
Feb 15, 2019, 11:55 AM (6 days ago)
Hey, have you shipped the rifle?

Jake Gowans <jake.j.gowans@gmail.com>
Feb 19, 2019, 10:26 PM (2 days ago)

Hi is everything ok?

Sent from my iPhone

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Originally Posted by Benelli1 (Post 3934734)

Yup that works if your selling. If buying you are banking on the seller shipping the item after you have sent the funds.

Agreed, I don’t see why sellers balk so much at sending COD. That way both parties are pretty safe.

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Originally Posted by Nikanit (Post 3934810)

I would ask for a scan of his firearms licence too

I almost got scammed the seller sent me a pic of his license that turned out to be reported lost he didn't think a buyer would bother checking.

Sent all correspondence to the RCMP never heard anything back

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Originally Posted by calgarychef (Post 3934815)

Agreed, I don’t see why sellers balk so much at sending COD. That way both parties are pretty safe.

Some people aren't willing to wait two weeks for the COD payment to show up at your door.

I am 100% a believer in CASH up front. Sorry, my stuff, my rules. Never had a issue so far. Sometimes I will "trust" someone and hold it for them, but it had better be a low ticket item. The biggest run around is people who say they will take something and then back away. So, no COD for this cowboy.

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Originally Posted by Benelli1 (Post 3934734)

Yup that works if your selling. If buying you are banking on the seller shipping the item after you have sent the funds.

I don't release the password to the seller until I have a Tracking # and it shows that it has been accepted by the courier company, pretty simple.

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Originally Posted by Jayhad (Post 3934856)

I don't release the password to the seller until I have a Tracking # and it shows that it has been accepted by the courier company, pretty simple.

You expect someone to ship you a rifle before you pay them?

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Originally Posted by Jayhad (Post 3934856)

I don't release the password to the seller until I have a Tracking # and it shows that it has been accepted by the courier company, pretty simple.

Your empty box will show up 3 days later

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Originally Posted by zouzou123 (Post 3934860)

You expect someone to ship you a rifle before you pay them?

No, the seller can see that the EMT is waiting, the cash is no longer in my hands, it is in limbo with the bank, I've never had anyone balk at this process and if they did, I would think something is up.

I do 98% of all my purchases online and I have never been scammed, yet. Yes someone could send me an empty box but then I would have them charged.

There is risk obviously when purchasing from forums and the only way you can limit that risk is in face to face interactions.

I'm confident with my process

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Originally Posted by Jayhad (Post 3934856)

I don't release the password to the seller until I have a Tracking # and it shows that it has been accepted by the courier company, pretty simple.

That is going to give you a false sense of security. Most banks allow you to set up your account to auto deposit, without a password. If you EMT funds to me, you are going to get an email saying the money is mine....and your password protected nothing. It's best that everyone is aware of this.

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Originally Posted by Jayhad (Post 3934883)

An emt with no password is no different than no emt at all. Takes 5 seconds to cancel it

Be careful however you purchase online.

I just googled his email address "twicearns" and found another ad recently put up on firearms canada. It has been deleted but its still in the google cache.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...U4FG_1OXKbQr2o

Same dude on a VW forum.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifi...php?id=2236181

Dang this sucks.

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Originally Posted by Jayhad (Post 3934883)

If that was your move, with your feedback I wouldn’t deal with you. An emt that you haven’t provided a password for isn’t an emt. I ship, you cancel. So if there was something up it’s more likely on your end, not mine. My feedback speaks for itself which is what I use to judge if I’m willing to do a forum transaction with someone. Between the multiple internet sites I’ve done a couple thousand deals and haven’t been burnt even once so “I’m confident in my process”.

How you could convince a seller the money was in “limbo” is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by Twisted Canuck (Post 3934888)

Thank you Twisted Canuck, I wasn't aware of this. Thought EMT was locked down tight.

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Originally Posted by Jayhad (Post 3935297)

Thank you Twisted Canuck, I wasn't aware of this. Thought EMT was locked down tight.

It gives you a warning as you don't need to create a question and an answer.

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Originally Posted by Coiloil37 (Post 3934758)

I texted Mike (Sea Shepherd) we shall see if he responds. I’ve dealt with him before and never had any issues.

Anything back from Mike?

Gun post, town post, firearms Canada, Craigslist and many more sites are all well known to be hives of scammers. I only deal on proven sites such as here and CGN and I'm only buying from people with positive feedback.

I've not dealt with GunPost, and barely ever even been on it, but one thing I noticed cruising it today is that you can use the filters to look for ads local to you, this would mean you could just search for ones that you could deal with face to face. That seems like a plus.

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Originally Posted by Bellero (Post 3938286)

Same for me.

Gun post sent me an email to beware of possible scam yesterday or the day before.

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Originally Posted by dantes inferno (Post 3938272)

Anything back from Mike?

Nope. Sent two texts and they both say delivered but not received (iphones).