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Angler 10-06-2018 02:04 PM

Tool Restorations
 
How's it going, everyone?

Are there any other guys and girls who enjoy watching tool restorations on YouTube? I certainly do, I like it much, so I decided to give it a try, why not?
I went ahead and bought this old file on the flea market, rusty and ugly, and turned it into a nice looking tool, which now could be used without any shame.

If you are curious to see this transformation, please check this link out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04I9KuCJwSI

Have you guys done any restorations yourself?

What do you think about this one?

I hope you gonna enjoy watching this as much as I enjoyed restoring it!

Cheers!

There are before and after shots to get you intrigued!

https://i.postimg.cc/3NKnpvdS/image.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/x8hNYrDv/IMG_E0443.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/mZwd4850/IMG_0530.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/MHdtYpBW/IMG_0529.jpg


Thank you for looking!

Ken07AOVette 10-06-2018 02:38 PM

That is very cool!

I have a bunch of very old tools I got to do the same thing, planes, pipe wrenches, vises, etc but never did. Any interest in seeing them, for future projects?

Angler 10-06-2018 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette (Post 3851327)
That is very cool!

I have a bunch of very old tools I got to do the same thing, planes, pipe wrenches, vises, etc but never did. Any interest in seeing them, for future projects?


Thanks!

Yeah, sure! I'd take a look!
I PM you

owlhoot 10-06-2018 03:18 PM

I reconditioned a lot of old carpenter hand tools, Most were handed down from my Grandfathers,
Some sit on a shelf but I use a lot of them and I feel good doing it.

CaberTosser 10-06-2018 03:23 PM

Looks like your end-grain butcher block is white oak and spalted maple?

Here's an old double-bit axe I restored, unfortunately I didn't snap a before picture that I recall. The handle had a major warp to it and it took a while to locate a handle for a double-bit axe, the one I got had to be trimmed back quite a bit to fit.

I softened some of the edges where the harder steel had been chipped on my 1" x 30" belt sander, they seemed like an injury waiting to happen.

In the first pic you can see the color change in the metal after the rust removal soak in Evapo-Rust, this is either where different steel was forge-welded for the cutting edge or perhaps is just from the quenching during heat-treatment. Its easily visible where the steel hardness changes because of the blemishes on it from a previous handle replacement job, when hammering the axe head off the handle the previous guy was hitting both the hardened steel and the softer steel; the harder steel chipped and the softer steel yielded & deformed. I posted this years ago and an eagle-eyed observer noted the more subtle stamping on the head between the factory "Berghaus Sweden" stamping in the centre and half-way to the point of color change that shows "AFS" which they guessed at being Alberta Forest Service. I think they're probably correct.

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/y...pstmvnmpkl.jpg

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps2rwihkxj.jpg

Angler 10-06-2018 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by owlhoot (Post 3851336)
I reconditioned a lot of old carpenter hand tools, Most were handed down from my Grandfathers,
Some sit on a shelf but I use a lot of them and I feel good doing it.

Feels good, right? It's like bringing something back to life, giving it a second chance. I think I'm hooked now! LOL

Angler 10-06-2018 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaberTosser (Post 3851337)
Looks like your end-grain butcher block is white oak and spalted maple?
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Good eye sir! Yes, that cutting board made from white oak and spalted maple, love that thing, built it last year in DIY shop.

Nice looking axe!
What are your thoughts on Evaporust? How long do you need to keep it in there? Seems like vinegar takes too much of time...

CaberTosser 10-06-2018 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angler (Post 3851347)
Good eye sir! Yes, that cutting board made from white oak and spalted maple, love that thing, built it last year in DIY shop.

Nice looking axe!
What are your thoughts on Evaporust? How long do you need to keep it in there? Seems like vinegar takes too much of time...

Evapo-Rust works quite well and you can pour it back into the jug to use again until its chemically depleted. I suppose one could do that with vinegar as well but at $3.50 a jug the motivation isn't quite as strong. Of course I'll knock off loose rust with a wire brush or pressure washer as the case may be, best spot to get it seems to be the big jugs available at Princess Auto. Most items seem to be de-rusted overnight or 24 hours, perhaps only stubborn pits take any more. I do use vinegar too, lately I've been using Lemi-Shine dishwasher booster (powdered citric acid from lemon & lime sources, had a nice citrus smell).

6.5swedeforelk 10-06-2018 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angler (Post 3851347)

...What are your thoughts on Evaporust? How long do you need to keep it in there? Seems like vinegar takes too much of time...

Angler if you're into rusted metal restoration,
I would suggest that you throw together
an electrolytic cleaner.

Plastic pail, battery chger (10a min).
RR tie plate or 2ft rebar for anode.
Washing soda , or baking soda roasted at 275f
to remove the (bi)carbonate.
Add water, hook Pos to rod and Neg to item.

Ensure that the metals do not contact.

bloopbloob 10-06-2018 10:11 PM

I am a QC, I work with metals all day long, NACE certified. There are a few simple (but multi-step) chemical processes we use to clean and treat steel before powder coating, and also how to clean stainless steels for a final passivation. Willing to share some tips if anyone wants. Products used are patent protected, but could possibly lead you in the right direction.... I can say a light iron phosphate coating (uM) will do wonders to mild steel for paint longevity, as well as rinsing with reverse osmosis water. If anyone is serious about restoring old metal properly, feel free to PM me, or in this post.

Angler 10-07-2018 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaberTosser (Post 3851353)
Evapo-Rust works quite well and you can pour it back into the jug to use again until its chemically depleted. I suppose one could do that with vinegar as well but at $3.50 a jug the motivation isn't quite as strong. Of course I'll knock off loose rust with a wire brush or pressure washer as the case may be, best spot to get it seems to be the big jugs available at Princess Auto. Most items seem to be de-rusted overnight or 24 hours, perhaps only stubborn pits take any more. I do use vinegar too, lately I've been using Lemi-Shine dishwasher booster (powdered citric acid from lemon & lime sources, had a nice citrus smell).


To Princess Auto I go than!
Vinegar seems to be working pretty good and it's cheap, but takes time, I've been holding that file for the 5 days in it. So on my next project I might try Evaporust.



Quote:

Originally Posted by 6.5swedeforelk (Post 3851359)
Angler if you're into rusted metal restoration,
I would suggest that you throw together
an electrolytic cleaner.

Plastic pail, battery chger (10a min).
RR tie plate or 2ft rebar for anode.
Washing soda , or baking soda roasted at 275f
to remove the (bi)carbonate.
Add water, hook Pos to rod and Neg to item.

Ensure that the metals do not contact.

Yeah, I've seen this technique before, it got my attention, so I gonna have to give it a try as well. I also heard that it would work with low current too, like 1 amp only. I gonna try it with a modem power supply on something small.

CaberTosser 10-07-2018 12:35 AM

On the vinegar end, you may or may not know about pickling vinegar, its got a higher percentage of acetic acid than standard vinegar, typically 7% versus 5%. That sounds like its only 2% stronger, but its really 40% stronger when you do the math.

Angler 10-07-2018 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaberTosser (Post 3851552)
On the vinegar end, you may or may not know about pickling vinegar, its got a higher percentage of acetic acid than standard vinegar, typically 7% versus 5%. That sounds like its only 2% stronger, but its really 40% stronger when you do the math.


I was using a 10% vinegar, the strongest I could find.

So that would 200% stronger :)

buckbrush 10-07-2018 07:33 PM

Cool post.

I've never really restored any tools but I have some old ones. I sometimes look at old tools or my big anvil (1906 I believe). It really makes me wonder who bought it new or in the case of some really old hand forged tools I have, who made it and what was their story.

Thanks for sharing.

Beeman 10-07-2018 08:01 PM

If you can find some oxalic acid try it. I tried it on some old license plates and oil cans and it takes the rust and leaves the paint alone. I even tossed in an old crescent wrench that had been lost then found a couple years later and it freed it up like new again.

pavilion 10-07-2018 08:45 PM

I recently restored a big old 8 inch vise over the last week or so, not sure if the pics will work it's been a long time since I have attempted to upload any

https://imgur.com/TM6D2DJ
https://imgur.com/EiJ8u1J
https://imgur.com/Cwc4Far
https://imgur.com/Bwnhpp1
https://imgur.com/LvXPaOM

pavilion 10-07-2018 08:57 PM

Guess I should have read the destructions first.....now that's better

https://i.imgur.com/TM6D2DJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EiJ8u1J.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Cwc4Far.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Bwnhpp1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LvXPaOM.jpg

tirebob 10-07-2018 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette (Post 3851327)
That is very cool!

I have a bunch of very old tools I got to do the same thing, planes, pipe wrenches, vises, etc but never did. Any interest in seeing them, for future projects?

I don't as much restore as tune and use antique woodworking tools. I love handtool only woodworking, joinery etc...

If you have anything you are looking to sell, message me. I am always interested. I don't flip. Just a user and collector.

Angler 10-08-2018 01:12 AM

Good Job on that vise! Looks cool!

amosfella 10-08-2018 09:49 AM

I've cleaned up a few over the years. For those of you with rust problems, and little patience, a norton rapid strip disk on an angle grinder works quite well to take the rust off without damaging the steel underneath...

Angler 10-23-2018 10:21 PM

Second Atempt
 
Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen!

I just got done my second tool restoration. This time I did pipe wrench Stillson No14, which I bought of Ebay.
To remove the rust I used electrolysis this time and let me tell you this method is quick as a lightning, also it so interesting to watch the process.
I got it rust free in one hour!

You can check the whole video of this restoration if you follow this link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Xv2cYpt-Y


Also before and after pics for you!

https://i.postimg.cc/pdV65WCZ/IMG-0639.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/26Mct4Dc/IMG-0644.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/5NcKqqpj/IMG-0784.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/xTKxsJF5/IMG-0785.jpg

Thanks for watching!

grouse_hunter 10-24-2018 05:32 AM

Great video! Quite the difference between the starting point and the finished product.

slopeshunter 10-24-2018 08:46 AM

^Agreed. Looks great

Angler 10-24-2018 12:29 PM

Thanks guys! I am glad you like it!

Angler 11-02-2018 07:38 PM

Scissors Restoration
 
Good evening people!

Sharing my latest restoration with you! This time German Scissors

Please check out the video here
https://youtu.be/KqHN9SUbqkw

And before and after pic of course!

https://i.postimg.cc/FF0PMNNj/452761...79137536-n.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/MH0dVbds/452179...13536000-n.jpg

Tell me what you think!
Thanks for watching!

slopeshunter 11-02-2018 07:45 PM

Amazing. Nice work! I’ve got some old tools from my gramps in the basement. I should take a look at them and see what kind of shape they’re in.

Ken07AOVette 11-02-2018 07:47 PM

Very nice!

Angler 11-04-2018 09:41 PM

Thanks, guys!
I really like too!

Slowhand 11-04-2018 10:18 PM

Tool Restoration
 
Angler; you have done a fine job & thanks for the link to the pipe wrench video. It gives easy to follow instructions for electrolysis

Stormc1oak 11-05-2018 07:14 PM

cool


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