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LongRangebugler 12-12-2019 01:12 PM

Tough moose meat
 
Has anyone ever had experience with harvesting a moose and everything being tough and chewy ? I mean this was a small cow shot in farmland area basically grain fed ... but I mean the tenderloins and backstraps have been like bootleather lol it’s just weird first time ever for me . The cow was young ... I don’t know.

Rhino81 12-12-2019 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LongRangebugler (Post 4073193)
Has anyone ever had experience with harvesting a moose and everything being tough and chewy ? I mean this was a small cow shot in farmland area basically grain fed ... but I mean the tenderloins and backstraps have been like bootleather lol it’s just weird first time ever for me . The cow was young ... I don’t know.

I’ve experienced that on big old bulls. Did your cow run a ways by chance? How long did you hang your moose? Tenderloin should be tender even right after shot. Only thing I can think of is it ran a ways and muscles constricted prior to her demise

slough shark 12-12-2019 01:16 PM

There are other possible factors at play, was the animal stressed? Perhaps it had just been pushed, was the shot good and a quick kill? Was it aged? How was it butchered?

CNP 12-12-2019 01:16 PM

Was it aged at all? I would age it 4-7 days before cutting it.

Rhino81 12-12-2019 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by slough shark (Post 4073196)
There are other possible factors at play, was the animal stressed? Perhaps it had just been pushed, was the shot good and a quick kill? Was it aged? How was it butchered?

So exactly what I said lol

Flatlandliver 12-12-2019 01:18 PM

Sous vide

Rhino81 12-12-2019 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CNP (Post 4073197)
Was it aged at all? I would age it 4-7 days before cutting it.

2 weeks average. At around 0 -2. Sometimes 3 weeks

3blade 12-12-2019 01:24 PM

Did you wait until rigor mortis had resolved before cutting? You should be able to move the joints of the legs. That is the most important step of aging meat. Anyway, there’s plenty of solutions:

Wet age: let a serving sit in the fridge in a vac-sealed package (yes it has to be vac sealed, not wrapped or bagged) for a week before eating. My preferred technique as I can’t stand the waste of dry aging.

Freezer age: let it sit in the freezer for at least a year, more if possible. The aging process (lysosomes breaking down muscle tissue) continues at a very slow pace

Slow cook, pressure cook, braise, double grind and make sausage, cut cross grain and make jerky. You might have to give up the idea of a rare steak for this animal but once you get into it there are many more interesting preparations anyway.

Dubious 12-12-2019 01:28 PM

Just age it in your fridge and forget about hanging it for days in your non temp controlled garage. It’s not to late to age it now that it’s cut and wrapped.

MountainTi 12-12-2019 01:29 PM

Sounds like a lot of moose cutlets

Rhino81 12-12-2019 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainTi (Post 4073213)
Sounds like a lot of moose cutlets

A friend of mine started getting all his elk and moose steak tenderized at the butcher. Said it was the best thing he ever did. I’m going to try it this year with my moose

slough shark 12-12-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhino81 (Post 4073199)
So exactly what I said lol

2 people can type at the same time lol

Brbpuppy 12-12-2019 01:51 PM

Yes, have had very tough meat from a big old cow moose one year. Honestly just got used to the tough meat :) don't mind it, just takes a bit more chewing time haha.

Think it was because of a spine shot (unintentional), which required a finishing shot. That's just a guess.

Pioneer2 12-12-2019 01:52 PM

aged?
 
From what I've read moose doesn't get better aged.Run the works through the grinder and make sausage.I am doing that from now on.I did a whole
3 year old cow into sausage.

Rhino81 12-12-2019 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by slough shark (Post 4073225)
2 people can type at the same time lol

I suppose they can lol my bad

Kurt505 12-12-2019 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioneer2 (Post 4073230)
From what I've read moose doesn't get better aged.Run the works through the grinder and make sausage.I am doing that from now on.I did a whole
3 year old cow into sausage.

Where did you read that?

wildwoods 12-12-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioneer2 (Post 4073230)
From what I've read moose doesn't get better aged.Run the works through the grinder and make sausage.I am doing that from now on.I did a whole
3 year old cow into sausage.

Decomposition does not discriminate between ungulate species. Properly aging meat is vital to obtaining the best finished product possible. I age usually 2 weeks in a temp controlled environment. Our meat is never tough.

Rhino81 12-12-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioneer2 (Post 4073230)
From what I've read moose doesn't get better aged.Run the works through the grinder and make sausage.I am doing that from now on.I did a whole
3 year old cow into sausage.

well from what you read and what I eat I would say you have been reading false sources. Moose most certainly get tastier and more tender dry aged for 2-3 weeks and that is a fact. Need the right temps but dry aged is the way to go

sarahfaye 12-12-2019 02:18 PM

Pressure cooker will make any meat tender.
15 years ago my brother phoned and offered buffalo meat.
Just pay to wrap it. For sure I said. While later 850 Lbs of the toughest meat I've ever tried to eat showed up.
The ground was amazing but the pressure cooker became my friend to deal with the rest.

whitetail Junkie 12-12-2019 02:21 PM

Hunt for the Runt...
 
I got my little dink bull this year & he is VERY good eating...one of the best eating animals I’ve ever had...shot the sucker right in a swamp....seems like moose feed in swamps like deer feed in grain fields in the early/late hours of the day....don’t know if it was that swamp grass that made him so tasty and tender but damn he is good eating...think he was a 2.5 year old bull.

Roderek 12-12-2019 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubious (Post 4073212)
Just age it in your fridge and forget about hanging it for days in your non temp controlled garage. It’s not to late to age it now that it’s cut and wrapped.

Unless it has been frozen, once the meat is frozen the aging process stops

tony d 12-12-2019 02:25 PM

Cold shorted had that happen to myself once on a moose I killed in - 37 google it up for the real explanation

wind drift 12-12-2019 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tony d (Post 4073253)
Cold shorted had that happen to myself once on a moose I killed in - 37 google it up for the real explanation

What he said. Every hunter should understand cold-shortening, how it’s caused and how to avoid, mitigate and reverse the effects. For myself, it’s sometimes meant that I avoid taking the hide off and exposing meat to quite cold air when field dressing and hauling out. Generally that’s not doable with large critters killed in November or later though, necessitating longer hanging / ageing times.

58thecat 12-12-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CNP (Post 4073197)
Was it aged at all? I would age it 4-7 days before cutting it.

not the tenderloins....OP said the whole moose so far is chewy and tuff...only explanation is that he forgot to put his teeth in.:sHa_sarcasticlol:


cow must have been hot on the hoof for some miles.....

KyleSS 12-12-2019 03:44 PM

This should fix the toughness of the meat

https://www.amazon.ca/Jaccard-14405-...6190596&sr=8-6

timsesink 12-12-2019 04:05 PM

Wet age everything a minimum of 3 weeks. Works wonders.

I believe wet aging still works after frozen but I would only consider it on pieces you won't refreeze. Other then that insta-pot, jerky or sausage.

Pioneer2 12-12-2019 04:05 PM

to each their own but
 
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colt45 12-12-2019 04:17 PM

I use a slow cooker , will soften the tough meat ,

MountainTi 12-12-2019 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhino81 (Post 4073217)
A friend of mine started getting all his elk and moose steak tenderized at the butcher. Said it was the best thing he ever did. I’m going to try it this year with my moose

I bought a cutlet machine last year. Always have pork cutlets on hand, don't need a knife to cut them, just use your fork. Will be nice to have for my next old tough moose..

huntinstuff 12-12-2019 04:46 PM

He probably shot it with something other than a 30-06

THAT will always result in tough meat


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