the .280 Ross
I really don't know why but I think tinkering with a mark III would be a worthy project.I believe it was well made just should not of gone into ww1 general service.It is very fast to cycle (watched a video on this) and has a very strong action and will put up good numbers today.Bullets and brass could be an issue.Has anyone been down this particular path?
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There's some information in this post
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showt...highlight=ross Make sure the rivet is in place |
I have a friend who shoots one in 280.
I have been toying with the idea of getting one as well, but just don't have the time to mess around with it - nice rifles though. Cat |
I have had some interest in them as well,I think in 280,I am curious to see what they go for,I better do some searches.
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you do realise that 280 Ross is not the same as 280 Remington?
The balistics however are very similar. |
The 280 Ross has the same volume as a 7mm Mag case with the band removed however it was loaded to 1912 pressures with the powders of the day. This is cartridge could easily loaded to higher pressure than the action could take, one would need to be careful using todays components. The original round used .287 bullets rather than todays .284 bullets I'm not surehow that would affect accuracy.
The action is a slick one although I can see how sand and muck could foul it up. |
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not a .280 rem
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It's a very worthy project. Best of luck. |
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history
The Ross rifle in .303 had nice match chambers that of course were prone to jamming with the crappy war time British tolerance all over the map ammo.Many had their chambers enlarged to fit the British ammo and a wool sock.The .280 version was used unofficially in sniping roles.Harold
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280 Ross
I think the bolt design was extremely advanced for the time.The flaw is a minor one and it is surprising it hasn't become the standard bolt action design.Our modern turn bolt rifles are are not as advanced.I had read somewhere that the trigger has a roller bearing incorporated into the assembly as well.The case has more slope to it and should help the smoothness and reliability in chambering a round.Geez and this was over a hundred years ago, modern rifle makers really have no vision by comparision-the lever gun design was brilliant too, and even farther back...just a thought
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The Mauser M96 straight pull was a good design I'm surprised they never caught on.
1/2 way through this video its shows the action and the rifle is in my favorite caliber https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5oAgcCCJX4 I've never seen one of these for sale in Canada but they do exist they were only made for two years 1996-98 |
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It's not a USA design, it is not and never will be allowed. When Canadian troops carried it, there was a shortage of rifles available and a war raging across the globe. Since then we produced the Arrow, it was scrapped and all evidence that it existed was erased, we have a treaty and it was enforced. That is just the way it is. And some wonder why the Arabs hate the USA. |
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I own a Ross rifle, in .303 And it appears that you are right, they were designed by a Scotsman. I was told they were designed and built in Canada, but it seems they were designed in Scotland and only built in Canada. Or maybe the online information is wrong. That happens too. I'll have to do some more research. |
Found this, thought some might find it interesting.
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thanks
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Ross was born in Scotland in 1872 He designed the Ross rifle in 1896 and patented it in 1897. The first Ross rifles were manufactured in Connecticut, where they were stocked and barreled with barrels made by Charles Lancaster in Bbritain. These were civilian rifles . Ross began production in Canada in a factory he built on the Plains of Abraham and in 1902 signed a contract for 12,000 rifles. Cat |
I have one too
I think that Ross got a bad rap. The last thing Britain wanted was Canada manufacturing small arms. Sam Hughes was an idiot or mentally ill and that has all been laid at the Ross rifle's door. It was a very popular deer rifle in its day.
The action and sight are very advanced for 1914, even to-day. |
It's a great sporting rifle but makes a lousy battle rifle.
That was proven during the war As well as trials using a long Lee as a control rifle . Cat |
You need this book
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12...c137fde99b.jpg Years and years of asking at gunshows, and I finally found it at my hometown gunshow! A brutally sporterized Ross was my first ever centerfire rifle. The only time I was nervous about firing it was the very first time, when I knew nothing about the Ross, other than about the rumours of them blowing the bolt into people's faces. (The Lord saves the simple) My Ross always comes along on hunting trips as my back up rifle now. |
Shot a whitetail with it a couple years ago.
http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1386599707 |
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