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wildbill 01-13-2019 01:23 PM

Great news, 1022 mag well adapter
 
Accepts rem 597 clear 30 rounders, made by sbi

West O'5 01-16-2019 09:48 AM

How incredibly rediculous that this is acceptably legal or even that somebody felt compelled to design it based on an errant call by the jackbooted thugs in Ottawa.😢
Thanks anyway,but I’ll just continue to use my 25rd Hotlips and GSG 100 drums.....LEGALLY and in blatant defiance of RCMP’s “opinion”.
RCMP’s mandate is to enforce existing laws,not create them,that is the job of Parliament,and not interpret laws,that is the job of the courts.
They can have all the “opinions” they want,it doesn’t make it so.

darren32 01-16-2019 01:42 PM

Thanks for the info

https://spectreballistics.com/1022/5...e-adapter.html

wally338 01-16-2019 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by West O'5 (Post 3912587)
How incredibly rediculous that this is acceptably legal or even that somebody felt compelled to design it based on an errant call by the jackbooted thugs in Ottawa.😢
Thanks anyway,but I’ll just continue to use my 25rd Hotlips and GSG 100 drums.....LEGALLY and in blatant defiance of RCMP’s “opinion”.
RCMP’s mandate is to enforce existing laws,not create them,that is the job of Parliament,and not interpret laws,that is the job of the courts.
They can have all the “opinions” they want,it doesn’t make it so.

I have no intention of losing my rights as a gun owner over a 100 or 25 rd pistol magazine lol. Pick your battles.

DRE75 01-17-2019 09:37 AM

But eventually someone has to challenge this in the court system, so yeah, I say good on you for using them, and offering to be that guy.

32-40win 01-18-2019 03:56 AM

I believe the NFA or CSSA has challenged it already.

Bbkkcc 01-25-2019 01:29 PM

saw these at edmontons last gun show. sounds like they are already approved with documentation.

Very cool Canadian product. Made in Spruce or Sherwood

wildbill 01-26-2019 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by West O'5 (Post 3912587)
How incredibly rediculous that this is acceptably legal or even that somebody felt compelled to design it based on an errant call by the jackbooted thugs in Ottawa.😢
Thanks anyway,but I’ll just continue to use my 25rd Hotlips and GSG 100 drums.....LEGALLY and in blatant defiance of RCMP’s “opinion”.
RCMP’s mandate is to enforce existing laws,not create them,that is the job of Parliament,and not interpret laws,that is the job of the courts.
They can have all the “opinions” they want,it doesn’t make it so.

Pistol mags are limited to ten, using those would be no different than using an AR 30 round mag with the rivet drilled out, the law is pretty black and white, you wanna post on a public forum talking about using prohibited devices (which in violation of the forum rules no less) I would be very careful.
I know I’m not willing to risk jail time.

tikka250 01-26-2019 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildbill (Post 3919639)
Pistol mags are limited to ten, using those would be no different than using an AR 30 round mag with the rivet drilled out, the law is pretty black and white, you wanna post on a public forum talking about using prohibited devices (which in violation of the forum rules no less) I would be very careful.
I know I’m not willing to risk jail time.

That's for CENTERFIRE pistols and rifles. Rimfire is a completely different deal. These as well as many other 25 round mags are perfectly legal.

darren32 01-28-2019 09:07 AM

Bill you cost me $400. While ordering the adapter I noticed the 10/22 chassis. It's really nice. Machining is good, finish is very nice. Fit is perfect. It's really light, will be great for my son. I am going to get a decent grip and a red dot on it but what's here is what I had on hand.

https://i.imgur.com/TeCplLw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qwIJbSL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KW9u5k3.jpg

DRE75 01-29-2019 09:42 AM

I got my 2 adapters last week and tried them out on the weekend. Feeding was rough, lots of FTF and a few FTE, will need to work in these mags.

GOOD news is the adapters fit in both the 10/22 and Ruger American Rimfire, and the bolt gun fed better than the semi auto.

driller212 02-19-2019 09:44 PM

you also need to check your mags, remington installs the magazine spring backwards so the feed angle isnt right. I had to turn mine around and reliability increased greatly after that.

darren32 02-20-2019 07:21 AM

I got my adapter a couple of weeks ago.
I only shot a couple hundred with it so some more testing is required but I didn't find it worked too bad. ProMag magazines worked quite a bit better than the actual Remington ones which was surprising. Guess I will have to check the springs in the rem mags, thanks for the info.

brendan's dad 02-20-2019 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tikka250 (Post 3919649)
That's for CENTERFIRE pistols and rifles. Rimfire is a completely different deal. These as well as many other 25 round mags are perfectly legal.

Nope,

For handguns the magazine limit of 10 is for both centerfire and rimfire.

brendan's dad 02-20-2019 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by West O'5 (Post 3912587)
How incredibly rediculous that this is acceptably legal or even that somebody felt compelled to design it based on an errant call by the jackbooted thugs in Ottawa.��
Thanks anyway,but I’ll just continue to use my 25rd Hotlips and GSG 100 drums.....LEGALLY and in blatant defiance of RCMP’s “opinion”.
RCMP’s mandate is to enforce existing laws,not create them,that is the job of Parliament,and not interpret laws,that is the job of the courts.
They can have all the “opinions” they want,it doesn’t make it so.

When a new drug hits the street and is seized by the police for the 1st time, who makes the decision which drug schedule it should be entered on within the CDSA? Should the Politicians, Judges, and Lawyers all get together and review the medical information or do a hit and try to decide? Or is it more reasonable that experts in the field would analyze the substance and determine it's classification within the drug schedules.

Like it or not the "Lab", which falls under the umbrella of the RCMP, are the recognized firearms experts for the country. Their whole purpose and mandate to provide technical expertise and "opinions" in relation to the classification of firearms and devices (magazine, suppressors, knives... etc). Those opinions are then forwarded to the Public Safety Minister for approval, and if approved results in enforcement.

The difference between the Harper government and the current government is that Harper's Public Safety minister refused to approve several opinions put forward by the Lab, but Goodale has basically approved everything.

Twisted Canuck 02-20-2019 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tikka250 (Post 3919649)
That's for CENTERFIRE pistols and rifles. Rimfire is a completely different deal. These as well as many other 25 round mags are perfectly legal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan's dad (Post 3934141)
Nope,

For handguns the magazine limit of 10 is for both centerfire and rimfire.

BD is correct, ALL handgun magazines, whether center fire or rimfire have a limit of ten rounds in Canada.

With semi automatic long guns, of the center fire variety, the magazine limit is 5 rounds. With rim fire long guns, there is no magazine limit (hence the 25, 30, and even 100 rounds magazines available and formerly legal for the 10/22). The problem came when the Ruger Charger handgun was imported to Canada, and accepted the same magazines as the Ruger 10/22....and the 10/22 mags over 10 rounds became prohib status overnight because they would fit the Charger hand gun. My understanding is so far the RCMP had declined to charge anyone with possession of prohibited devices on these 10+ magazines to date (but they have confiscated some as prohib devices), as I think they prefer not to have it challenged in court and a precedent set on their 'law making' ability. A number of different firearms associations would apparently like to have someone charged so they can challenge it....but I'm not current on whether or not there is anything in the works on it.

Best article on it I could find:

https://calibremag.ca/1022-magazine-update/

fish_e_o 02-20-2019 11:54 AM

ya... you can keep your jam sticks away from me...


all reports say that they jam like bob marley

West O'5 02-20-2019 01:22 PM

Great news indeed....until Remington releases a 597 pistol.🤭

fish_e_o 02-20-2019 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by West O'5 (Post 3934229)
Great news indeed....until Remington releases a 597 pistol.🤭

or someone puts an adapter in a restricted :sHa_sarcasticlol:

Stephano 11-29-2019 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driller212 (Post 3933940)
you also need to check your mags, remington installs the magazine spring backwards so the feed angle isnt right. I had to turn mine around and reliability increased greatly after that.

How can you tell if it is oriented correctly?


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