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Hoping to get drawn this year. I'll be taking along the 7mm Rem mag.
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Put any good bullet 6mm or larger in the right place and your elk will not go far.
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Those Elk are tough critter's ... and sneaky too ... a stealth bomber is the only way to take one down .
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Funny, almost 30 posts and you were the only fellow that didn't understand the OP's intent.... or did it make you feel good to point out your superior intelligence. To the OP, 7mm rem mag with a 150 TSX. Just picked up a 9.3 x 62 and would like to give that a try some day. Planning to load up some 250 TSX. |
Thanks for all the replies so far, I find it really interesting to see just how much variety there is and different opinions on the subject.
Seems to me pretty consistent that we need good bullets and well placed shots, haven't seen many other animals with the toughness of an elk. Another question for those of you with more experience buying and selling, is the used market worth it? Or just suck it up and pay for new? I see most are listed close to new price anyway, or is there any advantage to trying to find one say from the buy and sell part of the forum? |
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I also buy and sell often of here and CGN. Face to face is preffered for me. Check Trader ratings etc. I travel quite often from Edm to Cgy so usually can contain deals within that area. Take care |
There are some excellent rifle values on the used market. Many of them in near new condition. The key is to determine what you want in a rifle/cartridge combination and do the research on the ones in the used market you find interesting.
Some of the finest quality rifles ever manufactured were built in the earlier years (post WWII) of the last century and can be purchased for less than half the retail price of a rifle of similar quality being manufactured today. Exercise due diligence in the used market and I'm sure you will find a real gem. |
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For those in the know, how hard is it to find off the shelf good ammo for the 6.5 size cartridges? I don't reload yet, although I would like to get into it I am curious if there is any good factory options.
And not to open a can of worms, but in the 6.5 size and up, who is making some of the best guns for your money in the current new market? And is there any classics that I should keep my eye out for used? Thanks |
I bought a 400 ought six and reloaded a bunch of tannerite shot gun shell's with a load of buck shot ... had no trouble smoken a turkey at 40 pace's .. but sure chocked that I didn't just buy a 308
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From my experience its more bullet type and placement, I feel like some people forget that about hunting. Ive made shots where they get hit and dont even move, when i was down in suffield guys were removing 1,2,3 bullets from elk that weren't there's. So bigger isnt always better.
With the right bullet i think my .303 can do it no problem, and my .243 as well. |
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one year (it was 2007 the year my mother passed away )I had a cow elk draw tag in zone 348 my nephew and I were out and saw a heard of cow elk we went and got permission, and when we came back another hunter was loading up his cow elk they had run up onto a bluff of jack pines in the middle of the field so my nephew and I walked up there for a looky see we no sooner got to the bush when we came across a dyeing cow elk so I finished her off tagged her and my nephew walked around a bit found another one dyeing so he finished her off and tagged her as well both cows had a 7mm caliber bullet in them when we dressed them out this was a bad case of heard shooting and not placing the bullets properly if my nephew and I hadn't of gone up there looking those two cows would have perished needlessly and no one would have been the wiser about it the other hunter had not placed his shots, was just shooting , it was an easy hunt for my nephew and I , stuff like that really turns me off of other hunters we both were shooting 308's at the time , so the bullets in the animals were quite easily calibrated at 7mm calibers |
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Its not only about having ammo readily available, its more about have a lot of ammo available to see what you gun likes best. Try this link may help you decide http://www.chuckhawks.com/all_around_cartridges.htm. The 4 recommended cartridges may be "boring" or "plain jane" but they work. |
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Is there a commonly accepted foot lbs of energy that is required for elk? Might make some of my decisions easier...lol
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How many Ft lbs of energy does an arrow impart, upon a target? If a bullet exits the chest cavity, did it impart the full amount of kinetic energy it possessed when it hit its target. I've seen elk killed with 100 grain cup core bullets out of an 18-1/2" bbl'd .243Win. I've witnessed elk soaking up 180 grain Partition bullets from a .300 Win Mag, it took a saintly gent with an old fashioned .270Win with 130 grain cup cores to finally anchor that bull.(shots in legs and guts no matter how skookum the load don't down game) The hunters ability to become proficient with their rifle of choice, has to be weighed and balanced. Rifles like a 300 Win Mag often induce flinches and bad habits in many hunters. Get larger and more powerful chamberings, and it becomes harder and harder to perfect your shooting form. There isn't an elk that walks this earth that is bullet proof. A well placed .27 or .28 caliber bullet of stout enough design of at least 140 grains, starting out of the muzzle at at least 2800 fps will kill elk out to most ranges any average hunter will ever reasonably hunt. You crunch those numbers because well, they are just that numbers. |
Generally, 1500 fpe is recommended for elk. But, it is only 1 factor. Anywhere from a 270 to 300 wm is reasonable. The big four posted above are great if you are looking for an all around hunting rifle that is adequate for elk. If you are looking for an elk specific caliber (sorry cartridge:sHa_shakeshout:) a 300 wm or 338 wm is pretty ideal - but they are harder to shoot accurately due to recoil. I would suggest a 30-06 or 7mm Rem mag as that is the upper limit of what most people can shoot accurately.
I have a 7 mm Rem mag myself and hope to get a 35 Whelen some day for no good reason at all. I also have a 243 for coyote and deer that i supposedly bought for my daughter :). I'm breaking it in for her. Rifle fit is very important, try to shoot your friends rifles before you buy. A 300 wm that fits you in a reasonable weight rifle can easily have less perceived recoil than a 30-06 in a lightweight that doesn't. There are many good used deals listed on here. If the price is too close to new, go with the new. I'm partial to Tikkas myself and Sakos, but Tikkas are available for what I'm willing to spend. I would suggest finding a rifle you like, watch for a used one in any reasonable caliber and shoot it lots to make sure you are accurate enough with it and that it's recoil is tolerable. When you are at the range, shoot anyone's rifle who offers. You'll find what you like, have fun along the way and figure out what you like, and it's cheaper than buying new. If you know what you want and plan to keep it for a long time (forever) then buy new. Enjoy yourself! |
Trying to understand x- bolts logic of using a 260 but not a 7mm 08.
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Xbolt drank kool-aid and it all came out on the keyboard. That is the only explanation for that.
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Give me a good Elk tag and I'll pack whatever I have handy.
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If you are trying to justify a bigger or different rifle, don't try too much justifying it, or rationalizing it too hard. Go find a rifle model you like, then see what's available. FWIW I saw a 35 Whelan Rem 700 on the buy sell, look hard at that one, it'll wholop the stuffing outta just about everything you'll meet in the Alberta woods. And it won't compromise your dental work or rotator cuff in the process. http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=315256 |
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