Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum

Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum (http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/index.php)
-   Trapping Discussion (http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
-   -   Coyote worth. (http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=335832)

Jtstahl 12-22-2017 03:43 PM

Coyote worth.
 
So the other day I caught a coyote.. It was a nice and big.. I skinned, washed and fleshed it.. today I turned it around to find it being about 10 pounds with really no fur at all.. Just heavy wool. I was wondering if anyone else has seen that.. Are they worth anything? And why, instead of fur is it covered in heavy wool? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...adc04567a9.jpg

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

drake 12-22-2017 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jtstahl (Post 3694318)
So the other day I caught a coyote.. It was a nice and big.. I skinned, washed and fleshed it.. today I turned it around to find it being about 10 pounds with really no fur at all.. Just heavy wool. I was wondering if anyone else has seen that.. Are they worth anything? And why, instead of fur is it covered in heavy wool? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...adc04567a9.jpg

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

It's worthless....good experience though. Wash your hands twice tonight before having supper.

HunterDave 12-22-2017 07:36 PM

It has a bad case of fugly! :sick: A couple of years ago I sent in two woolly ones and they graded as Semi’s. I think that I got $30 each for them. They weren’t nearly that bad though. If you send it in I’d be interested in knowing what you get for it.

Jtstahl 12-22-2017 08:43 PM

Ok. I figured as much. Thanks for replying.

I'm debating if I should send it to the sale or sell it to a private buyer. We have a few driving around here come trapping season.

Anything is better then nothing.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

Camdec 12-22-2017 10:36 PM

Had one last year that I thought was ok until I started to skin it. I realized it had dreadlocks all over its back. Not nice. Im guessing I got it before the rest of the disease did.

Camdec 12-22-2017 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jtstahl (Post 3694505)
Ok. I figured as much. Thanks for replying.

I'm debating if I should send it to the sale or sell it to a private buyer. We have a few driving around here come trapping season.

Anything is better then nothing.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

If you’re questioning the quality I would expect a fur buyer would feel the same. They see a lot more fur than you or I.

bill9044 12-24-2017 12:28 AM

Coyotes can be like women.... Some are beautiful and others... Well have a good personality... send it in you need 1 or 2 to pull the avg down... brush her up nice and send her in you put the time in get some cash for it..

H380 12-26-2017 06:18 PM

Your coyote is worth more than mine..man I hate eagles https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e7998cc028.jpg

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

Jtstahl 12-27-2017 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H380 (Post 3696496)
Your coyote is worth more than mine..man I hate eagles https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e7998cc028.jpg

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

Wow, that sucks! Thankfully not a problem I have to deal with.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

TrapperMike 12-27-2017 10:28 PM

Nice belly, nice shoulders. Don’t throw it away you will be surprised at what you will get for it with the good demand.

H380 12-28-2017 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrapperMike (Post 3697221)
Nice belly, nice shoulders. Don’t throw it away you will be surprised at what you will get for it with the good demand.

I didnt throw it out , I brought it home and a fellow AO member is using it for trim on some mittens . I dont like to leave em in the field either as it seems to trains the birds to eat em . I've had a bit of luck before with the same problem where I was able to salvage the hide and tho it went as damaged it was in much better shape than this one .Can't sew it up when that big of a hole is there .

spoiledsaskhunter 12-28-2017 08:09 AM

there was an eagle sitting on one of mine when we went out to check yesterday.........rotten bugger was picking holes in it. hole in the side of the neck/head is big enough it can't be sewn, but for an experiment, i'll send it in and find out what they think about it at auction time.. then i'll know what to do next time.

Marty S 12-28-2017 08:23 AM

Yup, your damaged coyote was worth anywhere from $50 to $150 depending upon who was fixing it.

It is said that some fur graders fear certain individual's sewing craft...

Meanwhile the lice/mange dawg is worth $1.50 to $15.00 depending upon which sale and how much demand.

rcmc 12-28-2017 11:40 AM

Back thru the years when I only rifle hunted, there was a a lot creative sewing happening in the fur shed. It's amazing what kind of damaged can be hid or least minimized with the know how. Now with the uptake of trapping it isn't as necessary as it used to be.

Jtstahl 12-28-2017 12:28 PM

Someone should post a picture that qualifies as a good sewing job. Fur in of course so a person could see the thread..

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

buckbrush 12-28-2017 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jtstahl (Post 3697543)
Someone should post a picture that qualifies as a good sewing job. Fur in of course so a person could see the thread..

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

Wish I had read that last week. Nice prime coyote, fleshing an a hurry and flipped my knife to the sharp side doing the belly, not watching what I was doing...
Lots of sewing on that one. :angry3:

HunterDave 12-28-2017 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jtstahl (Post 3697543)
Someone should post a picture that qualifies as a good sewing job. Fur in of course so a person could see the thread..

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

I don't think that this one from last week is too bad.

https://i.imgur.com/RtzU77K.jpg

buckbrush 12-28-2017 08:05 PM

Good work Dave! Ones like that I have a problem getting everything lined up right, always seem to end up with a bit extra in one place.

Do you start at the points or intersections or just go from one end to the next?

H380 12-28-2017 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty S (Post 3697366)
Yup, your damaged coyote was worth anywhere from $50 to $150 depending upon who was fixing it.

It is said that some fur graders fear certain individual's sewing craft...

Meanwhile the lice/mange dawg is worth $1.50 to $15.00 depending upon which sale and how much demand.

Whats your experience with the eagle torn dogs Marty ? Softball sized hole in the flank . Ive had 2 in the same set on consecutive checks ..

HunterDave 12-28-2017 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckbrush (Post 3697826)
Good work Dave! Ones like that I have a problem getting everything lined up right, always seem to end up with a bit extra in one place.

Do you start at the points or intersections or just go from one end to the next?

The first thing that I do is wet the fur and move it away from the cut so i’m Not dealing with fur where i’m Sewing. For a jagged rip like this I lay it out and plan what goes where. I start at one end and keep checking that things line up as I sew and adjust my stitches as needed. It’s hard to explain without actually doing it and explaining as I go. There are lots of little tricks that I learned from putting up shot dogs. Do enough of them and it gets easier and quicker to do a good job.

I sewed two more tonight. One ripped about 12” when I was turning it fur out this morning :sign0161: the other only had about 4” of hide behind the ears holding the head on. The stitches looked similar to what’s in the picture and you’d have a very hard time feeling the stitches through the fur even if you knew where they were. Time consuming though.

HunterDave 12-28-2017 10:00 PM

I wouldn’t have bothered with that one, Cam. The hide on the stomach is so thin that you’d spend 45 minutes doing a decent job and all the stitches would tear out when you put it on a board or turned it fur out. Potential time waster IMO.

kingrat 12-28-2017 10:13 PM

on rifle shot ones where the edges are torn and messed up with blood shot etc, i usually try to cut a diamond shape to it and sew it. Watch a video of furriers cutting and sewing damaged pelts you'd be surprised at what you can make look good.

whiskeywillow 01-22-2018 07:37 PM

Bit of an old post already, but on these sew-job coyotes; what does that typically do to grading & pricing?

This years the first I'll be shipping direct, skinning everything vs. selling whole to buyers... anyway, I have a few that I've sewn up but haven't the slightest clue what to expect for grading change due to sew-jobs (or if there even is a downgrade being sewn?)

Sure would like some feedback on that.

H380 01-22-2018 09:12 PM

All depends on how much the hide is damaged ..the eagle torn one had nothing to patch together..so was not worth the effort. A good sew job will sometimes go unnoticed but it has to be well done .

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

hwkirby 01-26-2018 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterDave (Post 3697903)
I wouldn’t have bothered with that one, Cam. The hide on the stomach is so thin that you’d spend 45 minutes doing a decent job and all the stitches would tear out when you put it on a board or turned it fur out. Potential time waster IMO.

Nice work Dave! What do you use for thread?

HunterDave 02-22-2018 07:40 PM

Jtstahl........I wanted to PM you but for some reason I can’t.

Did you send this pelt to auction and if so, what grade did it get?

Just curious for future info. Thanks!

APAShooter 02-23-2018 11:03 AM

5 Attachment(s)
This is one that the birds got too... worked out pretty good.Attachment 143063

Attachment 143064

Attachment 143065

Attachment 143066

Attachment 143067

H380 02-23-2018 02:42 PM

Looks good buddy , I'll bring you my next one for you to work your magic on ..

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

bill9044 02-24-2018 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APAShooter (Post 3737916)
This is one that the birds got too... worked out pretty good.Attachment 143063

Attachment 143064

Attachment 143065

Attachment 143066

Attachment 143067

Good work man. You'd better be careful cause I have a bunch of yotes I'd be happy if you worked your magic on.
Damn good sew job
Bill

H380 02-24-2018 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill9044 (Post 3738421)
Good work man. You'd better be careful cause I have a bunch of yotes I'd be happy if you worked your magic on.
Damn good sew job
Bill

Hey I spoke first ..lol..he's too busy catching to skin many.

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:40 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.