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Heard on 1260 that the team has either met, or is meeting with Darryl Sutter this week.
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If you can afford to be a cap team, 9MM on a 100MM cap is different than 8.5MM on a 70MM cap. Draisaitl fails both tests. His $8.5MM/yr as a percentage of the cap when he signed is out of proportion to what he's delivered as a player. Then there's also the question of what is his return on investment on $8.5MM/yr (for 8 years:confused0068:) regardless of what the cap is? |
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His record as a coach is stellar. His record as a GM? Meh |
One thing I have really noticed is the how much flames fans know about the Oilers. Its really odd. Especially the older flames fans, but imagine watching your rivals win 5 cups while your team came so close and was very good in its own right. That would be tough for any fan base and burn a deep hatred that carry's on today. Lots of Oiler haters out there that really like to rub what a joke the oilers have become. But... The flames haven't won anything in 30 year's either so I am not sure why they are so cocky.
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A mid season signing based on 24 games looks like desperation especially if you look at the inconsistent play of Koskinen. First 7 games great number (approx 930 save percentage and sub 2.00 GAA) then terrible number after (sub 900 save percentage and plus 3.00 GAA). They should have waited till end of season or at least until a new GM was hired. Now the new GM is saddled with this contract. I guess that also shows that the GM is nothing more then a place holder in the Edm org and the decisions all come from elsewhere. Sent from my SM-G935W8 using Tapatalk |
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He was a great HC, but his time as GM, was not good. Trade record just slightly better then Chia. Poor draft record as well. Sent from my SM-G935W8 using Tapatalk |
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Understanding that the cap WILL go up, you have to look at the big picture when you're talking 6-8 year deals, or even the first 2-3 year window. Those "irrelevent" $8-10 MM/per deals that are going to happen this offseason will be signed on next year's $83M total cap. Before the puck drops on the 2019/2020 season, there will several directly comparable players with cap hits that are the same percentage of the total cap as Draisaitl's. That was the point. So now it's just a matter of how you rate Draisaitl's value compared to those other players and contracts that are going to be signed. I'm not a Draisaitl fan boy by any stretch, there's holes in his game and a lack of effort on way too many nights. I'm yelling at him all the time some nights. I agree that $8.5MM/per is a stretch right now, BUT, he's the 9th leading scorer in the NHL on a team that struggles to score goals. You can dump on that fact however you want, we've all heard it a million times and have our biases, and I'm sure we could fill three pages debating it, but in the end, the guy plays a TON of minutes and is proving to be an elite scorer that can play the PP and the PK. That gets you a big fat pay day. |
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As a Flames fan, I actually have never hated the Oilers, it's a sport. Now some of their fans, I came close to disliking. Mostly now it's just genuine pity for Connor and all the ripped off fans. As far as being 'cocky'...nah. But we sure are genuinely enjoying a great season. Not planning any parades, but what a fun and competitive team to watch. Careful with bitterness, it will make you sick. |
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I can honestly say I've never read a single post in the Flames thread, let alone felt the need to post in it. I couldn't even name more than 5-6 current Flames players, I just really don't care. :confused0024: |
Not sure who would be worse, Burke or Sutter.
Please, please, PLEASE don't let it be either of those guys. |
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But yes, my comment was more tongue in cheek. Being a hockey fan, I find it odd that another supposed fan thinks it's odd that I follow the moves of both provincial teams and our biggest rival. Talk about following your team in a bubble. |
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I am worried the Oil has lost out on a whole generation of fans. It's kinda like the Oil should be in the CFL. 12 years of constant screw ups will hurt a fan base. Any other location than Canada and this franchise would have left. Interesting article about how the GM has changed, the coach has changed but yet all the 80's guys are still around. You should watch the video calling for everyone to be turfed a 100% clean sweep. I wouldn't be surprised if Joey is the only one left standing. https://youtu.be/5ZU-AGMn1V0 |
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But yes, I think they could beat Edmonton, Arizona, Vancouver, Colorado, etc. with Smith. |
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Not that I brought up the 80' oilers, but what exactly is wrong with bringing up the past? How far should one be going back? Last year when neither team made the playoffs? Is 2 years too far back to bring up the Flames getting swept in the first round and the oilers getting close to making it past the 2nd round? Flames will no doubt finish far ahead of the oilers this year, and I think they have a chance to do well in the playoffs....depending on matchups. Playoffs are totally different hockey, and the flames don't have much experience with it. If they go up against some of the heavier teams with experience, they may be in trouble (a trade deadline pickup or two may be all that is needed). But I could be wrong and they might go all the way. I'm waiting for next year.....:) |
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Also, I'm not a Flames fan. Here's my free advice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjGXn249Fc0 The 80's are like heroin to Oilers fans. The present team is doing poorly, but just bring up the 80's and the 5 cups and all is well again. Here's some more free advice. Purge everyone who has any connection to the 80's. Consider it step 1 of a twelve step program. Quote:
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Then Sutter. Best to stay away from both. Sutter might work as a coach for a couple of years, but as a GM, just stay away. (more free advice) |
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The thing is, I didn't say I don't watch a lot of hockey, just that I don't care about the Flames or want to talk about them with their fans on a message board. Big difference.:) |
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