Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 4711942)

I already answered your question in your previous post, there is no need to repeat it.

Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 4711940)

As is normal with the government, they would require a standardized test, by approved personnel, at approved locations, and setting it all up , renting the ranges , paying testing personnel, and processing the paperwork would be expesive, and accomplish nothing.

Originally Posted by Salavee (Post 4711948)

You are over thinking it. Not that difficult at all.

Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 4711953)

I am being realistic, the government would require a standardized qualification, approved people to conduct the qualifications, and access to approved ranges to hold qualifications. And of course there would be paperwork to complete and process ,to provide proof of qualification, and records of each qualification. I have served on the executive of two ranges, and I have dealt with the cfos for range certification, and everything is standardized, and everything has to be approved. And every approval and standardization takes time and money, that is how government works.

Originally Posted by Salavee (Post 4711958)

Who said anything about a certified range ? Congrats on your involvement
but I dont beleive this program would necessitate a certified public range.

Originally Posted by JD848 (Post 4711975)

In any level of sports some guys do it much better then others . Some guys practice shooting weekly yet there's another guy who shoot's 90 percent less yet that guy is a better shooter.

Focuses better, higher level of concentration , better eye to hand muscle memory ,better eye sight .When your heart rate barely moves and you don't hear the shot or feel any recoil then your dialed in mentally when shooting at a live target . WHO in hell is going to teach this in a short 2 week coarse ,no one .

You let the government in on skill levels you can bet a big portion aren't going hunting.

Bench shooting and field shooting are 2 different deals . Some guys shoot tiny bug holes and the same guy can't hit a barn door once the critter is in his sights.

Both take practice and confidence in your rifle ,having others teach you who are not close to you might make you feel nervous .

Best is to be taken out and mentored by some who is good or very good to build up confidence . Or you can be taken out by an idiot and if your half smart you ditch the dummy and restart.

Elk has the right way on taking younger hunters out, test them out and limit there shooting distance . Walking before you run ,same applies to everything in life .

Originally Posted by JD848 (Post 4711975)

In any level of sports some guys do it much better then others . Some guys practice shooting weekly yet there's another guy who shoot's 90 percent less yet that guy is a better shooter.

Focuses better, higher level of concentration , better eye to hand muscle memory ,bett
er eye sight .When your heart rate barely moves and you don't hear the shot or feel any recoil then your dialed in mentally when shooting at a live target . WHO in hell is
going to teach this in a short 2 week coarse ,no one .
You let the government in on skill levels you can bet a
big portion aren't going hunting.
Bench shooting and field shooting are 2 different deals .
Some guys shoot tiny bug holes and the same guy can't
hit a barn door once the critter is in his sights.
Both take practice and confidence in your rifle ,having
others teach you who are not close to you might make you feel nervous .
Best is to be taken out and mentored by some who is good or very good to build up confidence . Or you can be
taken out by an idiot and if your half smart you ditch the
dummy and restart.
Elk has the right way on taking younger hunters out, test them out and limit there shooting distance . Walking
before you run ,same applies to everything in life .

Originally Posted by birdseye (Post 4711267)

After watching the hunting chanel for a bit,I say its time for the sponsors EG=Sako,Ruger,Savage,Weatherby,Nosler,Hornady,Fede ral,to make the hunters they sponsor profesional marksmen,as in hit certain targets at certain ranges to obtain and or keep the sponsor.They all claim to sell the best products,and most of the shows shooters are less then average to bad.3"-4" group is horrible and i have seen so many of them brag up this kinda accuracy.I think making the hunters applying for or keeping there sponsors should be certified marksmen.Wouldnt this be better for all hunters overvall and the name we all carry.Sorry if this is not written the best,kinda pee'd off and rattled at what i witnessed on a wild chanel program.

Originally Posted by birdseye (Post 4712706)

This post could have been called - I still watch cable tv

Youtube has roughly 8,000,000,000,000,000 hours of free low quality hunting content. AND you get to comment directly to the creator (content creator, not god) and give them your 2 cents on their

And your comment can be called pointless ? What does your comment have to do with sponsors and the hunters they sponsor,like I wrote previously,most of the replys are not related to the original post,just dribble and complaing lol

Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 4711995)

Shooting ability is determined mostly by two things, natural ability and practise. A good friend shot 1/2" groups at 100 yards the first day that I took him out, and he shot 20/25, at skeet the first day. He has killed two deer and a moose with me with three shots, shooting from 100-200 yards. A friends son has killed three deer with three shots with me, at 100-200 yards. His father wanted him to try a 400 yard shot at a whitetail, after killing two mule deer that morning, but I convinced them not to shoot, and spoil a perfect morning with a miss, or a wounding shot, because the young man had never shot past 200 yards. Both of those two don't shot a lot, but they have natural ability, and they listen and stay calm.
Other people that I know, shoot far more often, but they don't have as much natural ability, and they don't shoot quite as well. I know some that are terrible with rifle and shotgun, as they have no natural ability, and practise hasn't helped them much at all. If those people had to qualify at shooting to hunt, they wouldn't be
hunting.

Originally Posted by elkhunter11 (Post 4711995)

Shooting ability is determined mostly by two things, natural ability and practise. A good friend shot 1/2" groups at 100 yards the first day that I took him out, and he shot 20/25, at skeet the first day. He has killed two deer and a moose with me with three shots, shooting from 100-200 yards. A friends son has killed three deer with three shots with me, at 100-200 yards. His father wanted him to try a 400 yard shot at a whitetail, after killing two mule deer that morning, but I convinced them not to shoot, and spoil a perfect morning with a miss, or a wounding shot, because the young man had never shot past 200 yards. Both of those two don't shot a lot, but they have natural ability, and they listen and stay calm.
Other people that I know, shoot far more often, but they don't have as much natural ability, and they don't shoot quite as well. I know some that are terrible with rifle and shotgun, as they have no natural ability, and practise hasn't helped them much at all. If those people had to qualify at shooting to hunt, they wouldn't be
hunting.