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No special rights for anyone! Equality!!! |
Why is Alberta the only province that allows subsistence hunting by non-Albertan natives? Every other province you have to be registered from that province to subsistence hunt there. Not Alberta. Any native from Canada can hunt for subsistence here. In BC if you are a BC native you can subsistence hunt only certain areas only. Otherwise all regular hunting rules apply.
Alberta has no rules. |
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The only way we have to manage wildlife populations is by managing hunters. Therefore I believe controls on harvest, FOR ALL HUNTERS, is the only way to ensure viable moose, elk, deer and caribou populations.
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Join all the clubs you want....It's our government that fails us, and causes these problems! |
You better move
You are obviously not a member of the hierarchy ,living on a reserve .
You are not taking advantage of the system . I certainly would be if My forefathers had come here a little earlier . |
So I don't know if this is a solid number but from what I was told there was 14,000 draw applications put in for the cow draw on the base so at 3 dollars a draw the government just made basically 45,000 dollars off this..
We are talking about making lots of southern alberta into a 6point zone in wmu's 400 303 402 305 306 305 302 , so we are fighting over that at the moment why did we not use this money to tranquilize these elk have them penned loaded up and relocated to these same wmu's rather then killing them off? The answers I got out of some people and contacts is the elk would never make it with the predators in these areas ..Talk about a cop out answer!! 2nd was why wasn't there a bull draw added in with the cow tags with this or a cow and bull tag rather than two cows ..they should have gave the two tags and said you shoot your cow then you hunt your bull ..just so many more options then what they gave us ... Just goes to show how big of a joke are ESRD and wildlife management and government is !!! |
Anytime you assign special rights to any one group of people, you are stirring the hornets nest....poking the bear, etc.
Time for ALL Canadians to be treated equally. And yes, this is what government's always do. Make promises that can't be kept. Look at the benefit packages promised to gov't employees in Detroit, California etc. They are bankrupting these areas. All because the politicos know they won't be around to deal with the problem in 30 years. |
You can write/talk all you want but it will change nothing. Never has, never will.
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You wouldn't think it would be that difficult to change it so only Alberta natives can subsistence hunt in Alberta??
Every other province has this rule... |
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ORIGINAL LAW FOR ANIMALS "All animals are equal" This was then changed to read. "All animals are equal but some are more equal than others" The treaties are sacred cows and government is terrified of changing anything in them.,especially something as unimportant "TO THEM" as native hunting rights. Lets face it Alberta has done a poor job of managing most big game in our province so far. I don't think they care much at all about the state of regulated hunting let alone Indian harvests. |
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An eye for an eye.....
Most are already blind. Let's not forget why we're here.... We absolutely abolished they're game herds many years ago, like nuked them! Then we put them in the residential system.... We deserve every bit of what were getting. It is time for rules and regulations though. No point repeating the past. |
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So what you just admitted is that the province has to bring it to the attention of the federal government. Kinda like telling mom it's not fair. (Because they have no business dealing with it themselves) |
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Here is a link to a map of the numbered treaties and the geographical areas they cover. Some treaties cover 2 provinces, at least one 3. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...eaties-Map.svg No expert, but what you are saying doesn't make sense. Provinces can't dictate the terms of a Federal treaty, especially when the Federal treaty pre dated the province (Alberta and Sask didn't exist when the treaties were signed, exception being 10) Are you sure you aren't mixing up Metis and Status? |
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The suffield elk are loceted in a cwd zone. So I prezoom that is why the elk are not and cannot be relocated. Currently bioligists are working on a way to test animals saliva for cwd. Currently the only way to test animals for cwd is to kill them and test brain or spinal fluid. So until the bioligists can figure out a way to live test animals for cwd, the suffield elk cannot be transplanted.
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In Ontario you can only exercise your rights within your Treaty area unless you get permission from a First Nation in another Treaty area... |
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I suspect that the laws can be changed. Were treaties signed before there were provincial Parks or national parks? They were changed to accommodate these new parks. Somewhere, somehow, sometime, someone came to the realization that it can't be a free for all everywhere.
I can tell you that I have many friends that are treaty Indians and I have lived on disputed lands(not yet a reserve) with treaty Indians. There are all kinds of attitudes you will find there. I did find that when you can just shoot another moose tomorrow, the ones in your truck aren't all that valued. When you spend a long July day shooting and gutting moose and loading them in the truck. Then make a stop or two to visit a couple of friends the last thing that you want to do is unload those moose and hang them up. That would be difficult for anyone. It is hard to imagine but think of it this way, if groceries were free it wouldn't be as much of a priority to unload them and put them away. Some would spoil, no big deal. Get more tomorrow. Evidence of this is at my wedding I payed for all of the drinks for all of the guests and if you have ever done this before you will know how many just open beer and full drinks you throw out the next day. Disobedience, in the eyes of any one who has read history, is [hu]man's original virtue. It is through disobedience that progress has been made, through disobedience and through rebellion. I'm not sure if the qualifys me for "banned camp" but if so, it's been good to know ya 😢 |
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Suffield Bull Elk Subsistence Hunting
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I received this picture earlier today with a message saying that there have been close to 400 head of bull elk harvested on the Suffield base by Saskatchewan First Nations. I had thought about posting earlier but didn't want to ruffle any tail feathers. And then, low and behold, saw this thread.
I did not take this picture and cannot guarantee the story, but it came from a very, very good source. This doesn't look like subsistence hunting to me. But what do I know. |
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