Originally Posted by Prairiewolf (Post 2874754)

I thought the same thing - both good looking guns. Like Okotokian said, I thought Colt was in receivership, so not sure how this impacts the order/contract.

Question for the military guys - do these get a scope as well? How are they chosen?

Originally Posted by Bolete (Post 2874621)

They did. Ruger wouldn't release their data to Colt Canada to build them here.

Originally Posted by airbornedeerhunter (Post 2874734)

Never mind doesn't want- they aren't allowed! The C7/C8 family are prohibited weapons in Canada because they are assault rifles and have an automatic station on the selector lever. The Rangers are NOT members of the Canadian Forces. The rifles that they are being given are non-restricted for a reason- so they can take them home with them and wherever they go. Military weaponry are bound by a strict set of storage regulations by the CF. ALL weapons must be locked inside an alarmed, coded vault. Inside the vault the weapons are locked inside steel racks with abloy locks. The bolts have to be locked inside a separate locker behind another abloy lock. The keys for the racks are held either at the duty center or MP shack and those keys are inside another container locked with an abloy lock. Those regs defeat the purpose of having the Rangers with a rifle they can use whenever they want.

Second, 5.56mm is NOT a round that these guys want. The rifle is mainly used for hunting and defence from Polar Bears. The .308 is more than adequate for those purposes. 5.56mm- not so much

Originally Posted by st99 (Post 2874508)

plastic bolt shroud, I guess they don't know the effect of -50 on plastic :thinking-006:

Originally Posted by Unregistered user (Post 2874791)

It's just a gun.

Originally Posted by CaberTosser (Post 2874506)

If Colt Canada is to produce the barrel, bolt & receiver under licence are they a separate entity from Colt in the US which is undergoing receivership? It would be hard to get those made if the machinery is currently on the auction block.......

Originally Posted by catnthehat (Post 2874596)

Too much fluff in that pelican , IMO, they could simply have gone with a quality drag bag and be done with it!:thinking-006:
Cat

Originally Posted by dgitz (Post 2874903)

Ya no kidding. I can't see any of them actually keeping it in that case. They'd need to issue them each a mule to carry it around.:sHa_sarcasticlol:

Originally Posted by Unregistered user (Post 2874540)

I'll bet one of those will cost twice as much as a C7 but I guess the gubby doesn't want our first line of defence toting scary army guns.

Originally Posted by V_1 (Post 2874877)

Plastics have gone long way, but bias about them here to stay it seams.

Originally Posted by bat119 (Post 2874770)

I wonder what type/brand of ammunition they use for reliable results down to 40 below?

Originally Posted by HighlandHeart (Post 2874958)

I lived up north for six years and I've seen lots of plastic break in extreme cold. It is hard on equipment when it is in the cold for weeks at a time and it is hard for people to understand unless they have lived in it.

Originally Posted by Dick284 (Post 2874640)

The design is by Sako/Tikka, production rights are to Colt Canada.
So in essence the rifle is being made in Canada.

Originally Posted by sikwhiskey (Post 2875002)

Not sure why they need a "new rifle" designed and built. The are thousands of good rifles out there that would fit the bill for the task. What is the govt planning to spend building these? heard a rumour or 6K plus for one rifle, Govt cant be that stupid.............. well............nevermind.
Why not just order 5000 sako 85's with open sights? or M70's, CZ, Sauer, Weatherby, etc, etc?

Originally Posted by fish_e_o (Post 2875011)

as far as cost goes i doubt $100 sights a $100 larger bolt knob a $100 trigger guard and a $150 stock turn a $1700 rifle into a $6000 rifle

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams (Post 2874994)

Thought Colt was in bankruptcy ? I can foresee another one of those military boondoggles where the cost far exceeds what was originally quoted.

Grizz

Originally Posted by airbornedeerhunter (Post 2875054)

This forum is turning into the CBC what with all the uninformed comments and all. Tell ya what, a personal friend of mine is part the program for the procurement of these new rifles. I'll get a hold of him and get some details right from the horses mouth. Some of the comments about plastic sights, cost, caliber, bolt gun etc etc are really beyond dumb guys.

Originally Posted by Okotokian (Post 2875064)

You will have to excuse my pessimism regarding military procurement. Its just that I have a brother who has been waiting about 15 years for a new helicopter. He'll retire before he flies it. Its a totally incompetent branch of the DND. helicopters, supply ships, submarines, aircraft... total %#$@ up.